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Store owners say plastic bag ban causes more shoplifting
www.seattlepi.com ^ | Thursday, February 28, 2013 | Casey McNerthney

Posted on 02/28/2013 1:50:46 PM PST by Lonely Bull

When the Seattle City Council unanimously passed a ban on plastic bags and required businesses to charge a nickel for paper bags, city leaders believed it would be better all around.

"I think we've gotten to a place where it's really going to work for the environment, businesses and the community in general," Councilman Mike O'Brien said at the time.

But the bag ban is contributing to thousands of dollars in losses for at least one Seattle grocery store, and questions have been raised about the risk of food-borne illness from reusable bags that shoppers don't often wash.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bag; bags; ban; grocery; owners; plastic; plasticbag; plasticbags; reusable; reusablebag; reusablebags; seattle; shoplift; shoplifting; store; theft
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1 posted on 02/28/2013 1:50:51 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

Austin, TX. ban on bags starts tomorrow. Same set of problems.


2 posted on 02/28/2013 1:55:13 PM PST by WCH
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To: Lonely Bull

If one wants to determine whether or not a scheme will fail miserably - one needs only to check whether a dim-bulb-crat proposed it.

IF: dim-bulb-crat
THEN: dim-bulb-idea.

Libs are not the sharpest knives in the drawer...they aren’t really knives...and most of them are not even in the drawer.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 1:57:17 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Lonely Bull
questions have been raised about the risk of food-borne illness from reusable bags that shoppers don't often wash.

What could possibly go wrong?

I prefer paper.

I've seen some incredibly filthy "reusable" bags being used. I'm surprised the checkers don't insist on wearing rubber gloves.

4 posted on 02/28/2013 1:57:47 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: WCH

Not only that, but reusable bags have been linked to 25 per cent overall increases in infectious diseases. That’s an incredible health hazard!


5 posted on 02/28/2013 1:59:45 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Lonely Bull

San Francisco has said that ten days after the ban, food born illness increased 47%.
What I want to know is, what is a single use bag?
The bags I get are used for all sorts of things before they go in recycling.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 2:00:54 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Interesting. At first I was wondering how a plastic bag ban could increase shoplifting. But I read the article.

You know what’s next, dontcha? They will begin to search your bags after you shop before you leave

Like at Sams Club - - they count the number of itmes you purchase and verify that against the number of items purchased on your bill. Trouble is.... Buying 100 plus items will take you an hour to leave the store.

Hoo Boy! Isn’t liberalism wonderful???


7 posted on 02/28/2013 2:02:27 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: svcw
What I want to know is, what is a single use bag?

Any paper of plastic bag that tears before you can get the groceries into the house.

8 posted on 02/28/2013 2:03:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

#$@^^%

‘paper OR plastic’


9 posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Da Coyote

If you call a spoon a knife, how quickly can you cut your meat with your spoon?


10 posted on 02/28/2013 2:05:33 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Fractal Trader

We already use re-usable bags and have for years. Most meat of what we buy is frozen or not from the store so that’s not an issue for us. We also don’t live in Austin.

However, I could see lazy folks not cleaning their bags and suffering the consequences. Same ones who let those bags fly all over the county causing the local Commie government to enact silly laws.


11 posted on 02/28/2013 2:05:58 PM PST by WCH
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To: Lonely Bull

‘Course the effect on the beloved environment of washing reusable bags is outta sight, outta mind.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 2:07:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Then there’s this:

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/21369412/retailers-sue-over-austin-bag-ban


13 posted on 02/28/2013 2:08:47 PM PST by WCH
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To: UCANSEE2

Ok that made me laugh.


14 posted on 02/28/2013 2:11:45 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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Idiots all.

Asking customers to check reusable bags at the counter would be burdensome to customers and staff, and prohibiting reusable bags and backpacks likely wouldn't work well in Seattle, which other business owners said is known for grand environmental ideas that can hinder small business efforts.

Bullspit. I frequent a little mexican grocery store that prohibits carrying bags and backpacks into the store (mainly by kids). Kids know this and leave their bags by the checkstand, retrieving them as they leave. No one is inconvenienced and the store manages the theft.

15 posted on 02/28/2013 2:13:50 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Lonely Bull
Be prepared! At this rate, soon we'll be hammering out musical instruments out of abandoned oil drums.


16 posted on 02/28/2013 2:15:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Da Coyote

Yet they never let a paltry problem such as total and utter failure be enough reason to end one of their hare-brained schemes.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 2:20:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Da Coyote

I’d refer to libs as tools, but that implies they’re useful.


18 posted on 02/28/2013 2:23:19 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'll stop being a cynic when the world stops giving me reasons to be cynical.)
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To: Lonely Bull

Absolutely beautiful unintended consequences liberal quadrifecta of:

1: recycled bags are proven carriers of bacteria from unwashed vegetables and leaking meat packaging.

2: social justice (justified on the grounds that these are tough economic times and da people gotta eat and it’s the rich who are so cruel that they would starve poor people)

3: but it’s also the rich who move American jobs making reusable grocery bags offshore, depriving Americans of jobs with dignity (that they would not take since welfare pays better but that part we will ignore)

4: recycling (people of course never, ever reuse their grocery bags) which needs no further explanation since it’s “green”.

Perfect.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 2:24:01 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Revolting cat!

The effect on the reusable bags of washing them is plain to see. We have several that are falling apart.


20 posted on 02/28/2013 2:25:21 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'll stop being a cynic when the world stops giving me reasons to be cynical.)
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