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To: trebb

Your ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on?

Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T

And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?


34 posted on 02/23/2013 10:53:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
our ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on? Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?our ignorance of what has already happened in the private sector is nothing short of breathtaking. Almost everyone IN the private sector has already been slammed for 5 years! How in the hell can you not know that? What planet are you on? Second, your assumption that when people refer to “government employees” that we are talking about soldiers and related functions is very disturbing. Yes, I realize that techincally military personnel ARE government employees, but no one in their right mind lumps them in that pile. The notion that you assumed that scares the hell out of me, because apparently you are a “gummint bureaucrat” first above all else. I do know the difference. YOU DON”T And third, where the hell do you think ANY of this money comes from?

I am fully aware of the problems this administration has caused the folks in the private sector. I have also not been immune from it even though I have been able to keep my job.

You're assumptions of who I am are what is breathtaking. I didn't say anything about you and those who paint "gubmint employees" with a broad brush lumping military in with the evil civilian workforce - you managed to put that into my post all by yourself. I merely mentioned that many of us were prior/retired military who had something to offer in helping to train and free up military for their missions. I am far from a "gubmint bureaucrat" as you so conveniently call me - I have many posts on FR that tell folks that I am fine with taking some of the hits if the "leadership" actually follows through on policy that will put us on the right path - something I still haven';t seen you volunteer for in your screeds against all the evil "gubmint bureaucrats". You say I don't know the difference while you do and I find it a little sad that there are so many "experts" that are so damn ignorant and so damn proud of their superior knowledge. Perhaps you should read some of the wisdom of others and apply it to your own life. I'm particularly fond of a quote from Herbert Spencer: "'There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.'"

I am also painfully aware of where all the money for my wages comes from. I was merely pointing out that some of us "gubmint bureaucrats" actually work hard for our wages and give the People a good return when compared to the costs and inefficiencies of having to tie up military warriors in training slots and have them constantly rotating out of positions that require some stability for continuity. I also fully believe that the government has grown to such a size that it is sucking the life out of the Nation. I only started by stating that those who call for shoving it up the civilian DOD workforce's collective a$$e$ are not as knowledgeable as they seem to think about how the DOD workforce is broken down and they automatically lump us all in with the fiasco that is the root Federal government. It's almost like the "low-information" voters that comprise the Democratic Party - they hear something from someone who is "passionate" and they adopt it as fact and then work themselves into a frenzy against the "enemy".

Tell me what you "know" about me from this: I'm 60 years old and retired from the Air Force after 24 years of service. I Work in training for the Air Force and supervise 11 civilian and military personnel and am responsible for development/maintenance of/administration of 21 different technical courses dealing with military communications systems and network security. I often put in 8-12 uncompensated hours of "overtime" to keep a handle on my areas of responsibility. How much do I make? What "perks" do I get as far as benefits for being a "gubmint bureaucrat"? How much would it cost to have a military person in my position (hint - would need to be a senior NCO)?

I'm not the enemy - I want sequestration even though it will hurt me personally - I just hate all the "experts" acting as if it's a well-deserved comeuppance because they can't see far enough to understand that the civil service folks at many levels are no different than the private sector folks - they just applied for jobs that were going to be filled by someone and they do the daily deal of earning their checks.

46 posted on 02/24/2013 4:16:45 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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