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The Public Has Spoken – 100,000 Americans Sign WH Petition on Cellphone Unlocking
http://townhall.com/columnists/derekkhanna/2013/02/23/the-public-has-spoken--100000-americans-sign-wh-petition-on-cellphone-unlocking-n1518234?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl ^ | February 23, 2013 | Derek Khanna

Posted on 02/23/2013 5:47:33 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/23/2013 5:47:39 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

hussein don’t care what the “public wants”. After all, 75% agree with hussein. Still think it’s just 75 people. Not 75%.

Pro 2nd rally today. Virginia Street just north of the Atlantis Casino in Reno. 1-3 p.m. Any Reno freepers going?


2 posted on 02/23/2013 5:51:26 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Kaslin

Everything democrats/Obama do is to take away our individual rights and freedom and the same time grow government

the democrat party is a criminal socialist organization bent on enslaving all of us , destroying America , destroying capitalism , destroying freedom


3 posted on 02/23/2013 5:57:45 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Mad Dawgg

so if we unlock our phones then will democrats/Obama come to get us and put us in prison? Yes.

Democrats everything they do is for the goal to advance socialism( grow government ) and at the same time take away our individual rights and freedom


5 posted on 02/23/2013 6:08:31 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Mad Dawgg

” I paid for it, its mine and they can f**k off! “

You just spun the theme for the Second Revolution!!! This needs to be on T shirts, bumper stickers; and a blimp over NFL games.

Your phrase applies to EVERY aspect of our lives.

I just stole it and put it as my tag line!


6 posted on 02/23/2013 6:11:02 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (" I paid for it, its mine and they can f**k off! " (from Mad Dawgg))
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To: Mad Dawgg

Does anyone else wonder how much this cost the manufacturer to buy?


7 posted on 02/23/2013 6:20:03 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Mad Dawgg

I unlocked my phone

so to Obama : “come and get me you big eared socialist piece of communist crap”


8 posted on 02/23/2013 6:20:30 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Is it a law? I thought it was a decree by a bunch of bureaucrats, Then us little people turn around and “petition” the king to please change the rules? Just asking him the question gives him power. What are we doing?


11 posted on 02/23/2013 6:55:08 AM PST by larryholycow
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To: Mad Dawgg

The eloquence of the English language as formerly spoken may not be understood by all too many of today’s education system graduates.
The NEWER version is much more in tune with today’s version.
Also readily understood by one and all. In fact, it is “almost” as good a tagline as I think mine is.


12 posted on 02/23/2013 6:56:19 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: Kaslin

Folks, I am not technologically sophisticated, when I was young a transistor radio was a marvel. My parents bought me a transistor radio for my graduation from high school. There were still airplanes with two wings. (Hope that helps you understand why I asked the question: WHAT IS UNLOCKING ONE”S ELECTRONIC DEVICE?


13 posted on 02/23/2013 7:13:44 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
links how to unlock
14 posted on 02/23/2013 7:45:09 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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Thanks for the lead to the information. I can see why cell phone providers would want legal protection. Whether or not granting such protection is or is not a "good thing" I'll have to think about.
15 posted on 02/23/2013 8:21:15 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
WHAT IS UNLOCKING ONE”S ELECTRONIC DEVICE?

In simple terms, modifying the device's software so that it can be used in different ways. Some vendors design products they sell to be "locked" to certain service providers - so one version of their phone only works with AT&T service. Changing any device you own per se shouldn't be illegal, although clearly what you do with the modified device is subject to regulation.

The current regulations are equivalent to a law forbidding modifications to a car. In other words if you want to go drag racing it would be illegal to put a Chevy motor in a Ford chassis. That's clearly ridiculous, since once you buy the car you can do what you want with it off the roads. There are legitimate regulations about how you can use the modified device of course, so you can't cruise down I-5 in your dragster.

Cell phone companies, and Apple want to control how phones can tablets can be modified since it helps them maintain market share and use marketing techniques based on subsidizing the cost of hardware to lock in customers. Having the government help them lock in customers is at the root of the dispute.

16 posted on 02/23/2013 8:40:21 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The cell phone providers claim they are trying to protect their service contracts. But unlocking your phone, which is property that you paid for, and switching to another service using that phone, doesn’t negate the service contract. It just prevents making you buy a new phone. I’m glad people are standing up to this control. Next thing you know they’ll want you to buy a new TV if you switch cable companies.


17 posted on 02/23/2013 8:43:47 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604; freeandfreezing
Most Free Republic people support the idea of freedom of contract. Well there are consequences to such a doctrine. To illustrate: Assume I offer to sell you a Widget." As part of the contract of sale-(and buy/sell is nothing but a simple contract)-I put in a clause stating by purchasing this widget you promise not to put in a X factor. You say fine! "I promise not to put in an X Factor." "A Contract is nothing but a promise or set promises supported by adequate consideration that something shall or shall not happen in the future."

Now question; Should the law and courts support this contract? Explicitly you are asking the legislature and courts to modify the initial promise you made the "Widget" provider.

18 posted on 02/23/2013 9:12:03 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The contracts with the phone companies are for the service not the puchase of the phone.


19 posted on 02/23/2013 9:18:34 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Now question; Should the law and courts support this contract? Explicitly you are asking the legislature and courts to modify the initial promise you made the "Widget" provider.

It's not that simple. First off, if there is a contract, then there is a remedy, either as set forth in the contract or through a civil action between the parties to enforce the contract. So if, for example, you bought a product with some provision not to modify it, and then you breached the contract it is perfectly reasonable for the other party to seek damages from you. But it isn't reasonable, for example, to criminalize the action you took which led to the breach of the contract as a way for the other party to (a)prevent you from negotiating a different set of contract terms, and (b)free them from the expense and market pressure that results from enforcing their contract themselves.

Using the examples of automobiles, there is nothing in the principles of a free market which would prohibit a car manufacturer from requiring its customers to only have their cars serviced at the manufacturer's dealerships. Of course they would be likely to suffer a loss of sales in the marketplace, since consumers would not want to pay the higher repair prices that would be the likely result of the contract.

To avoid this problem, the car manufacturer comes up with a different plan. It persuades the government to pass a law making it illegal for anyone to have their car repaired by anyone but the dealers of the original manufacturer. No doubt they cite some reason, like better compliance with environmental laws. Under the law the customers no longer have the opportunity to choose where they obtain service for their cars, so the car manufacturer avoids the loss of market share it would otherwise suffer.

The vendors are welcome to set whatever terms they want for their sales, provided that they don't collude in violation of anti-trust laws. But creating laws whose purpose is to enhance their bargaining position with their customers is not good for free markets or society.

20 posted on 02/23/2013 7:55:26 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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