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Firearms raffles under fire in U.S.
StarTribune.com ^ | 2/17/12 | LYNNE TUOHY , Associated Press

Posted on 02/18/2013 6:42:29 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

CONCORD, N.H. - Police chiefs in New Hampshire wanted more money for a youth training program. A youth hockey team in North Dakota needed ice time.

Both saw giving away guns as the answer.

From car dealerships to political parties to hockey teams to, yes, even police chiefs, gun giveaways are an attractive way to make money or draw in customers. But in the wake of the deadly Connecticut school shootings, such raffles are drawing criticism as the ease of obtaining firearms fuels gun-control debates nationwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; raffles; secondamendment
Yep. The raffle-winner killers are everywhere. Just ask any informed journalist.
1 posted on 02/18/2013 6:42:33 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Perhaps the math challenged dolts in the press and in politics (are there any other types?) might want to give some examples and some percentages of the number of raffle guns that have been won by criminals.

Tick....tick....tick....crickets chirping, old dogs passing Obamagas out of their Obamaholes.....


2 posted on 02/18/2013 6:50:40 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

From the raffles I’ve seen. The gun is given as a credit at a local firearms dealer and it is picked up from the dealer with a background check.


3 posted on 02/18/2013 6:57:15 AM PST by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Every gun raffle in which I participated required a background check and form 4473 for the winner.


4 posted on 02/18/2013 6:57:34 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Hang'emAll

Yes, they know, full well that these prizes are not handed out without an NICS check. They don’t care. It’s just a matter of bad taste, doncha know.


5 posted on 02/18/2013 7:00:12 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Da Coyote

The last firearm I bought a raffle ticket for is a Remington 870 Turkey 12 ga. 3 1/2” mag. pump w/thumbhole stock, vent rib , full camo. This last one is for the Coles Point Mississippi Volunteer Fire Department.
Drawing Feb. 22nd.

The weapon of choice for criminals.


6 posted on 02/18/2013 7:13:04 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Hang'emAll

I would have thought that. I have a lot of experience at buying raffle tickets but none at winning.


7 posted on 02/18/2013 7:16:32 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: DocRock
Every gun raffle in which I participated required a background check and form 4473 for the winner.

Exactly! It's as if you purchased it a a gun store.

8 posted on 02/18/2013 7:16:32 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Da Coyote

These folks would get really riled up if they knew what the MN chapter of DU did with this year’s calendar raffle...


9 posted on 02/18/2013 7:17:37 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: DocRock
I have own 2 firearm raffles.

In both cases a background check and form 4473 was required.

The story is about feelings and not about facts. It is meant for consumption by no/low intelligence voters.

10 posted on 02/18/2013 7:24:56 AM PST by TYVets
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To: TYVets

I have won 2 firearm raffles


11 posted on 02/18/2013 7:26:16 AM PST by TYVets
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"In 33 states, including Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont, the winner of this AR-15 can turn around the same day and sell it to anyone without an ID or background check,"

Or he could go out and shoot a strawman.

12 posted on 02/18/2013 7:32:46 AM PST by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I know the organizers of the one here locally in ND, they will make 10x what they thought due to the publicity. Of course all winners will have to go through a local gun retailer as if they were purchasers.


13 posted on 02/18/2013 7:59:47 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Raffles are not under fire. Whatever that means to one so-called writer who references two small nonprofits that hate anything to do with guns.

This kind of “news story” is no story at all. All one has to do is google the name of the writer, Lynne Tuohy to see that this article and the words are meaningless because this is all contrived. Tuohy has never covered news, only liberal press releases.

Liberal entity issues press release>>Tuohy sees press release>>Tuohy reformulates press release in to “news story”>>liberal newspaper prints it as if it is news>>morons think it is news and worth treating seriously.

Bottom line?

PROPAGANDA or as we say in Texas -BULL$HIT


14 posted on 02/18/2013 8:01:41 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Raffles are not under fire. Whatever that means to one so-called writer who references two small nonprofits that hate anything to do with guns.

This kind of “news story” is no story at all. All one has to do is google the name of the writer, Lynne Tuohy to see that this article and the words are meaningless because this is all contrived. Tuohy has never covered news, only liberal press releases.

Liberal entity issues press release>>Tuohy sees press release>>Tuohy reformulates press release in to “news story”>>liberal newspaper prints it as if it is news>>morons think it is news and worth treating seriously.

Bottom line?

PROPAGANDA or as we say in Texas -BULL$HIT


15 posted on 02/18/2013 8:02:10 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Hang'emAll

Exactly! Our local Moose lodge does a couple a year
You get a dollar amount and have to go through the dedignated FFL holder
Still.have to do.the 4473


16 posted on 02/18/2013 8:09:15 AM PST by digger48
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
And I'll bet all the raffle organizers, even though they're not FFL's and even though they probably give away too few to be considered to be in the business, probably insist on running the transfer through an FFL anyway, just to protect themselves from liability. So what the heck's the problem, even for statists tyrants?

The problem is, these bedwetters just don't like guns period, so anything that portrays guns posititively or that pro-rights, pro-gun people enjoy must be stopped. Well, guess what? Their feeeeeelings don't have the force of law, and even etiquette doesn't require us to pretend that their opinion has any value.

I think conservatives fall down there a lot. Liberals aren't afraid to stand up and say "Stuff we don't like is at least controversial, if not bad, and if you're going to do it anyway, you're required to pay lip service to our concerns, as if it were a given that they were well founded." And conservatives don't have the guts to say "Your opinion isn't to be viewed as valid merely because you were able to form it. How about you guys walk around in fear of OUR opinions for a while?"

17 posted on 02/18/2013 8:33:30 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: TYVets

Amateur...

;-)


18 posted on 02/18/2013 8:56:32 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

When I lived in Alaska, our church used an annual auction to help raise money.

I remember loosing a bidding war on a Parkerized 12 gauge that three of us were determined to own.

Not quite a raffle, but still a fund raiser many would not associate with a modern church.


19 posted on 02/18/2013 9:06:05 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
"if they knew what the MN chapter of DU did with this year’s calendar raffle..."

OK, I'll bite...what did they do?
20 posted on 02/18/2013 9:46:17 AM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 45semi

One per day for the whole year.


21 posted on 02/18/2013 9:48:54 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

There have been no raffles “under fire” from sensible or honest people. The only people going after firearm raffles are agenda driven gun grabbers who have shown no hesitation to climb over the bodies of dead children to try and advance their cuase. These are heartless ghouls and should be called such at every opportunity.


22 posted on 02/18/2013 9:58:39 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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