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To: no-to-illegals

Yes, the intent was to limit or end corruption in the Senate, and so the states, at the behest of their outraged constituents, basically screwed themselves over. I believe the states threatened a Constitutional Convention to enact popular elections, so the Senate passed the 17th Amendment, along with the House, and it was ratified in 1913.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 11:02:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the history lesson. You just saved me from doing more research and that is always a good thing.


22 posted on 02/17/2013 11:05:23 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Speaking of Constitutional Conventions, there has been conversation to request a Constitutional Convention on the forum. I do not support a Constitutional Convention due to the lay of the field before us at this time. What are your thoughts regarding a Constitutional Convention for this present time in our nation's history or a simple support or do not support will suffice. As said, I am not in favor of a Constitutional Convention due to the lay of the field before us. If am asking a question you have not researched or care not to answer please do not answer. I will not be offended no matter what your decision.
29 posted on 02/17/2013 11:11:58 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So, we need to answer a few questions to get to the bottom of whether this is a good idea.

1st: Is there more or less corruption in the Senate today than in 1913? Or more precisely, is the corruption we have now a larger or smaller problem than what we had then?

2nd: Does returning Senate appointments to the state legislature mean that a Senator would no longer be a lapdog of their specific party? The way I see it, they stay in office by supporting their state legislature even if it is Democrats. But the Democrat party itself isn’t expending resources to elect or hold them in line... right? They either support their state or they get replaced correct?

This should also in theory make it MUCH harder to get Senators to agree or operate in simple lockstep with a particular party because the party doesn’t keep them in office so much as the individual state does.

This would be a dramatic improvement over what we have now, even if the state legislature’s are mostly Democrat.

Or am I missing something?


34 posted on 02/17/2013 11:32:59 PM PST by Advil000
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