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To: Blue Ink
"I googled that one. 200 million vs. 1.5 billion seems to be the internet consensus, anyway."

Wow, got that one wrong.

"KRTH 101 in Los Angeles plays both Stones and Beatles — but more Beatles."

If KRTH is the same as I remember, they play everything even as far back as Jerry Lee or The Platters. It is an oldies station if I remember correctly. That's their thing. Classic rock stations rotate the Stones, Led Zepplin, The Who, and such with little Beatles.

"Love the Motown. But the Beatles “Twist & Shout” is a Motown remake, and I think it’s better. I also think their versions of “Rock ‘N Roll Music” and “Roll Over, Beethoven” are big improvements over Chuck Berry’s."

I agree about "Twist and Shout" (Isly/Ink Brothers?) and "Rock n Roll Music" (Berry). Great covers. But again, they were remakes and when the Beatles first started doing their own stuff, it just didn't compare to the Stones originals at the time. The Beatles were bubble-gum whereas the Stones kept to their R&B roots and writing lyrics that got them kicked off some stations and even the Ed Sullivan show.

"Also, speaking of underrated, Ringo on drums. And Paul on bass. The Beatles rhythm section played, well, melody, at least on some songs. Like “Come Together.”"

Will also agree with Ringo's drums on that one. Interesting absorbing beat. Also, thought they rocked on "Back in the USSR". Again, I admitted that Charlie Watts of the Stones is a one act drummer. But he often has put the right fill in the right songs. Watts is a minimalist - think less is more sometimes. I wish the Stones had a better drummer on certain songs. Not The 80's big hair bands where they were all over the kit just to show would they could do, but just some more.

Again, my point was who gets your foot tapping more and whose original songs are heard and requested more often in niteclubs? And whose songs are backing soundtracks on movies? I've lost track how many times I've heard "Gimme Shelter" in different movies. When's the last time you heard "Day in a Life" or "Come Together" or "Back in the USSR". Being a sound guy, I listen to soundtracks on movies and watch the credits. I've even hear early Stones originals and rarely Beatles.

Yes, the Stones kept writing and producing more catchy songs long after the Beatles broke up, so some could say an unfair comparison.

I will always have "Sympathy For the Devil". If you want to see the Stones in their best form, check out, "Bridges to Babylon" DVD.

Last thought: The guitar and voice intro to "Gimme Shelter" has to be one of the most genius intros in the history of rock. Think I saw it as number 3 or 4 in a survey for rock intros. I could live on that song alone - I never grow tired of it. As the Stones say, "It's Only Rock n Roll, But I Like It". Or as Joan Jett says, "I Love Rock n Roll...".

39 posted on 02/28/2013 9:30:26 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
“Roll Over, Beethoven” are big improvements over Chuck Berry’s

But ELO's version is the best.

41 posted on 02/28/2013 9:43:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: A Navy Vet
Last thought: The guitar and voice intro to "Gimme Shelter" has to be one of the most genius intros in the history of rock.

Boy, you set the guitar bar pretty low.

But I would expect that of someone who claims "the Beatles were the most overrated rock band ever."

42 posted on 02/28/2013 9:49:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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