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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Mr Rogers; SvenMagnussen

Mr rogers wrote:

“No child can lose US citizenship by the actions of their parents. See:

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/325/case.html

It takes a lot of work,even as an adult,to lose US citizenship. Barry spending a few years in Indonesia as a kid does not,in any way,rob him of full US citizenship.”

What about this one?

Question is, if its not possible for a minor to (somehow) lose their u.s. nationality, how in the world can a SOS supposedly issue a cert of loss of nationality, as Sven theorizes?


58 posted on 02/14/2013 8:43:29 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Elg did not renounce her U.S. citizenship when she moved to Sweden to live with her parents. Elg’s father did renounce his U.S. Citizenship after he moved to Sweden.

Elg was informed by U.S. authorities she would be admitted to the U.S. as a citizen by returning to the U.S. at the Age of Majority (21 years old at that time).

Obama’s mother did not renounce Obama’s U.S. Citizenship. She was required to inform the U.S. State Department when she planned to return to the U.S. and declare all family members included on previous passports who have naturalized in a foreign state on her 1967 renewal application. The questions asked by the U.S. State Department on passport renewals are not idle curiosity. They are establishing facts and intent.

Obama’s mother established intent when she answered on her passport renewal she planned to stay in Indonesian indefinitely. She established a fact her son naturalized in a foreign state by amending her passport renewal to exclude him.

Establishing intent to not return to the U.S. and the fact the U.S. Citizen has naturalized in a foreign state is all the SoS needs to issue a Certificate of Loss of Nationality.

U.S. Policy at the time of Obama reaching the Age of Majority in 1979 (18 years old) was he would have until 6 months after his 18th birthday to recapture his U.S. Citizenship. The recapture of U.S. Citizenship must be applied for at a consulate of the U.S. and an loyalty oath stated.

Obama chose not to recapture his U.S Citizenship within 6 months after his 18th birthday. Instead, he waited and began the process of naturalizing as a U.S. Citizen. He completed the naturalization process. Obama became a U.S. Citizen in 1983. He is ineligible for POTUS because he obtained his U.S. Citizenship by completing the naturalization process. He lost his natural born citizenship status, forever, when he was issued a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in 1968.


66 posted on 02/14/2013 9:39:16 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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