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Who Makes the Cut for the Worst Presidents Ever? (What a Question)
Townhall.com ^ | February 13, 2013 | Michael Medved

Posted on 02/13/2013 7:59:52 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

BTW, what Buchanan said on leaving is pretty much what Washington said, the greatest.


21 posted on 02/13/2013 8:30:30 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Kaslin
For one of my upper level political philosophy classes I wrote my paper about the presidential inaugural addresses. I read all of them from Washington to Clinton, each one four times. The Inaugural Address is much like a thankful sermon. It was a very interesting exercise. All of the presidents used Washington's address as their model until Wilson. Wilson and Clinton showed NO humility, in fact both of them used the address as a chance to push for their own ideas. That was not the place to do it. The only president who exhibited distraction was Lincoln, for good reason. For some reason Pierce moved me to tears, and I don't know why. I was also surprised by LBJ in that he seemed to be quite moved by the fact that the people had given him the charge. He spoke quite humbly. Reading Kennedy's four times made me realize that he was not as eloquent as some people remember. If you read between what most people quote there was not much there. I understand that those memorable phrases were absconded from other speeches. My exercise made me appreciate Ronald Reagan a lot. It is evident that Reagan actually took the time to read Washington's Inaugural.

So, in my opinion who were the worst presidents according to their inaugural addresses?

1.) Wilson

2.) Clinton

3.) Carter

4.) Kennedy

In that order.

22 posted on 02/13/2013 8:33:41 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Bryan
That arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave got 992,965 less votes in 2012, then he did in the 2012 election. The reason he won was #1 voter fraud and #2 idiots voting for third party candidates. As if they have a chance getting elected.

OTOH President Bush got 11,580,500 more votes in 2004 then he did in the 2000 election.

23 posted on 02/13/2013 8:34:56 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: big'ol_freeper

He is my choice too, and yeah just wait until he has done all the damage. Maybe the idiots will wake up then. Unfortunately it will be to late by then :(


24 posted on 02/13/2013 8:38:11 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: rashley; the OlLine Rebel
I prefer to judge them based on the amount of damage they did (or did not do) to the country and their fealty to the idea of limited government.

Sorry using that basis I would have to agree with the OlLine Rebel in post 13 that Lincoln would be the worst by far. On his watch over 600,000 US citizens died in a very destructive civil war and a major portion of the countries economy was laid waste to.

Then you must factor in that he also used war to force the seceded states to remain or rejoin the union. Before the Civil War it was a generally accepted fact that any state could leave the union at will. This is pretty much an abrogation of the notion of limited federal government.

To be sure I am not saying that the presidents on your list are not bad but by your standard I would put Lincoln at the top.

25 posted on 02/13/2013 8:40:54 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Kaslin

There was a competition for worst President? Who knew?

Actually that was settled long ago, with the rise of “progressive” thought in political affairs, most notably with Woodrow Wilson and his intellectual heir, FDR.

LBJ, Carter, and now Bronco Bama have raised the stakes repeatedly, having bid up the price of entry based on the degree by which each has dipped into the resources of the US Treasury and ended up raising the national debt along the way (and no, Bush does not escape culpability, but he did show at least some concern for preservation of what was uniquely America).

The more liberal, the worse the President turns out to be. And Bronco Bama has raised the bar in ways no sane person could have predicted.

But Carter tried, oh, Lord knows, how he tried.

Jimmy, you have simply been outpaced.


26 posted on 02/13/2013 8:43:16 AM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: Kaslin
Just since 1900:

Eventually, Obama leads this list. He's the only President of the USA who actively hated the country and its inhabitants.

Carter, for his sheer incompetency.

LBJ, who actively, if unintentionally, did more widespread and long-term damage to the country than any other president before Obama. His War on Poverty and War in Viet Nam are (were) utter disasters for the American culture.

Hoover, whose administration helped create the Great Depression, just as the Obama administration helped creat the Great Recession. Both insisted upon exactly the wrong medicine -- government intervention, in the form of more spending and more taxes.

I'm reluctant to include FDR on this list, since his record is actually mixed -- good and bad. His social and domestic policies were failures, as he simply expanded on Hoover's idea. Moreover, he enabled massive penetration of the federal apparatus by Communism. But he gets substantial offsetting credit for winning WW II.

Wilson, the misguided intellectual -- who made a hash out of the Allied victory in WW I.

27 posted on 02/13/2013 8:44:26 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Kaslin

Obama 4th Best President Ever!

1 - Ronald Reagan and 9 others tied for first

2 - 15 former presidents tied for second

3 - 18 others tied for third

4 - Obama came in fourth.


28 posted on 02/13/2013 8:46:17 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: Kaslin

My own personal list for WORST US Presidents(in order of “Worstness”)
1. Andrew Jackson
1. (tie) Obama
2. Martin van Buran
3. Woodrow Wilson
4. James Buchanan
5. “Teddy” Roosevelt
6. FDR
7. LBJ
8. Herbert Hoover
9. Abraham Lincoln
10. “Jimmy” Carter
Comments please.


29 posted on 02/13/2013 8:46:44 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Kaslin
Worst Presidents ever?

1) Valerie Jarrett
2) Zbigniew Brzezinski
3) Hillary Clinton
4) Hank Paulson
5) Henry Kissinger

Oh...you were talking about the worst figureheads! :)

30 posted on 02/13/2013 8:51:06 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Iron Munro

Washington, Lincoln and Reagan stand at the top. The first had a major role in establishing our republic and the other two preserved it in perilous times.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 8:52:44 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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I’ll cast another vote for the devious, traitorous, piece of diseased dog droppings Woodrow Wilson. There’s quite a few in the mix for 2nd place. It’s not out of the realms of posibility for BOzo to take a shot at his title, he’s got 3 yrs left and has shown a lot of potential.


32 posted on 02/13/2013 8:56:15 AM PST by Hayride
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To: Kaslin

Everyone seems to forget one of the worst...Andrew Jackson, who told the supreme court to enforce their own decision that the Cherokee could not be removed from their homes, he wouldn’t...and neither did his successor, Van Buren, who oversaw the removal.


33 posted on 02/13/2013 8:59:17 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Kaslin

My list is:

1. Woodrow Wilson: He gave us the progressive income tax and that has led to the class warfare we see today.

2. Obama: Obamacare! If we could have beat him and then repealed it, I would have him lower on the list. However, we didn’t and it won’t be and now there will be a complete loss of freedom for our progeny.

3. FDR: Brought us Social Security, therefore normalizing collectivism and shifting the American psyche.

4. Nixon: Thanks to him we have the “war on drugs,” the EPA and a host of other unconstitutional “departments.”


34 posted on 02/13/2013 9:08:25 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SampleMan

I concur with your list, in that order.


35 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:29 AM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Your list is almost exactly what I had in mind. Glad you dropped Lincoln on there somewhere. My Great-Great Grandfather’s brother was Secretary of the convention of the original Republic of Texas and kept a copy of the original Constitution written in his own hand his whole life and his son fought with the Confederacy, arguing in a letter kept to this day :”Is man made for government or is government made for man?”
LBJ was awful, Jackson & Wilson too. We have had more rotten ones than good ones.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 9:15:28 AM PST by februus
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To: Tau Food

No one, not even Davis, expected Lincoln to turn out to be such a savage killer of fellow Americans.


37 posted on 02/13/2013 9:19:31 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Yeah, he really miscalculated, didn’t he?


38 posted on 02/13/2013 9:22:25 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“and he hasn’t done all his damage yet”

He hasn’t even gotten started yet.

I would liked to be able to go back and get the messages I posted about 4-5 years ago in which I predicted what the 0 would do to this country. For doing so, I was excoriated and called every name in the book.

If I can get my posts from 09, tell me how.

thanks


39 posted on 02/13/2013 9:24:20 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: Bryan
can't explain away the inconvenient fact that both of our most recent incumbents won re-election with 51% of the vote.

Democrats have perfected stealing elections to a fine art.

40 posted on 02/13/2013 9:27:16 AM PST by Rapscallion (Homeland Security is buying millions of bullets - for you. So you can't buy ammo at all.)
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