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To: longtermmemmory
this criminal was still unable to put up any resistance to the police with whatever he had.

2,000 to 1. There were 2,000 LEOs surrounding the fat puke. I'm glad he's dead, but let's put things in perspective. There are maybe 60,000,000 gun owners in the U.S. with perhaps 10 million who are hard core 2nd Amendment types.

That's a 10,000,000 man militia right there vs 800,000 LEOs nationwide. It took any army of 2,000 to take out one guy. Maybe an openly tyrannical government could declare martial law and fly the Chinese PLA in to take our guns but I suspect there wouldn't be a treasonous politician or jackboot left alive when it was over.

7 posted on 02/13/2013 7:55:34 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee
"tyrannical government"

But who says all the members of the armed forces and police would follow the dictates of a tyrant like Obama? I would bet that if Obama issued such a decree, which I know he'd love to do, many people in the military would think about staging a coup. Certainly many, maybe the majority of military people side with 2nd amendment gun owners. In the case of civil war, you'd most likely have the great majority of armed citizens and the majority of the military on the same side. Many big city police department members would side with Obama, but most small town and country police would probably be with us as well.

14 posted on 02/13/2013 8:11:53 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Sirius Lee
Maybe an openly tyrannical government could declare martial law and fly the Chinese PLA in to take our guns but I suspect there wouldn't be a treasonous politician or jackboot left alive when it was over.

We can't let it get that far. The tyrant and the treasonous, the ones GIVING THE ORDERS have to be removed (one way or another, peacefully or with prejudice), leaving the Jackboots leaderless.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 8:24:06 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Sirius Lee
That's a 10,000,000 man militia right there

No, a militia is organized. This is (potentially) 10,000,000 well-armed people who are geographically dispersed and many of whom actively hate each other.

21 posted on 02/13/2013 8:29:05 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Sirius Lee
2,000 to 1. There were 2,000 LEOs surrounding the fat puke. I'm glad he's dead, but let's put things in perspective. There are maybe 60,000,000 gun owners in the U.S. with perhaps 10 million who are hard core 2nd Amendment types.

Anytime one dedicated force goes against another, the losses are horrific. The Scripture alludes to this problem. See if you can find the principle in the following passage:

Luke 14:28 "For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost, to see if he has enough to complete it?
Luke 14:29 "Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation, and is not able to finish, all who observe it begin to ridicule him,
Luke 14:30 saying,' This man began to build and was not able to finish.'
Luke 14:31 "Or what king, when he sets out to meet another king in battle, will not first sit down and take counsel whether he is strong enough with ten thousand men to encounter the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
Luke 14:32 "Or else, while the other is still far away, he sends a delegation and asks terms of peace.

If this nation would turn back to God, we would have millions of dedicated people to tell this administration that it can NOT do the evil things it is doing (misspending money, giving welfare to undeserving citizens and non-citizens, undermining the voting system by pandering to illegal aliens, promoting all kinds of immorality, promoting gun confiscation from innocent citizens, etc., ad nauseum. We would have justice through the legal system to prosecute and imprison those officials who have so mismanaged our country and brought it to this low point.

However, if we do NOT turn back to God, He is going to give us over into the hands of evil people. The government we have now cares little or nothing about actual crime against citizens. If they did, they would put a 2000:1 ratio on cases and make some examples out of gang members, murderers, financial fraud in corporations (wait until the stock market tanks), etc. -- but they're not doing that unless someone commits a crime against the ruling elites.

People almost always get the kind of government they deserve. Sadly, the innocent minority trying to live correctly also has to accept the government THEY (the other immorality majority) deserve. The answer to solving the problem is simple, but I guarantee you the MSM won't touch the topic.

43 posted on 02/14/2013 5:02:04 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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