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Women in Ground Combat - How did it happen? And what will it do to the military?
The American Interest ^ | January 28, 2013 | BING WEST

Posted on 02/12/2013 7:57:16 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Good read ; a keeper.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 11:03:32 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Aetius; Dr. Pritchett; Yehuda; 444Flyer; F15Eagle; MestaMachine; little jeremiah; null and void
No, that ghastly and stunning quote was from General Casey.

Yup, the outrageous comments are even mentioned on his wiki page.

When saw him on TV making this diversity ueberalles statement it was truly a "what the ****" moment.

I keep thinking of it because the bodies of victims sacrificed to the diversity god keep piling up. Quotas are king and put dangerous, incompetent people in positions of power over life and death. Or the diversity worshipers brazenly turn a blind eye to murderous psychos. The diversity mantra started with skin color, then moved on to protected races, cultures, "religions" (no matter how destructive to western civilized standards), women, family, and marriage. Now "inclusiveness" means embracing illegals and the alphabet soup of debased and perverted identities...

Now anyone who will not prostrate to the malevolent god of diversity is a target for all manner of shame, slander, financial destruction, physical punishment or worse. Hiding behind banners proclaiming equality, justice, fairness, and balance, that demon is particularly insidious and relentless.

Worship a lie, wake up without a soul.

On the subject of heinous abominations...

Molech is one of those ancient abominations that engenders much discussion and speculation, but it's all theory. The only thing that is certain is that it is spelled the same as the Hebrew word for king, but is pronounced with different vowels (one theory is that the vowels are used/borrowed from the word bosheth, meaning shame).

Molech, for all its notoriety, is nevertheless an enigma. Nobody seems to be able to nail down its identity with any certainty. And maybe that's the clue... an abomination that operated in plain sight, as hidden as the air we breathe.

Well, just more speculation here, but with women being sacrificed to the fire (combat units), so are our sons and daughters, those having had their minds corrupted by the abomination known as "Diversity". DOMA is supposed to be ruled on by the USSC in June, and we have this quote from Panetta:

""One of the legal limitations to providing all benefits at this time is the Defense of Marriage Act, which is still the law of the land. There are certain benefits that can only be provided to spouses as defined by that law, which is now being reviewed by the United States Supreme Court. While it will not change during my tenure as secretary of defense, I foresee a time when the law will allow the department to grant full benefits to service members and their dependents, irrespective of sexual orientation. Until then, the department will continue to comply with current law while doing all we can to take care of all soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, and their families."

Panetta Signs Memo Extending Benefits to Same-sex Partners

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=72025

Is it really too "out there" to point out that the in-your-face modern-day king and idol of diversity (who even has his own Federal holy day) is known as MLK? MLK Day is Diversity Day. While in Hebrew the English name "King" is written (begins) with a quf (not a kaf as with the last letter of Molech), Molech (i.e. melek, mlk) *IS* the Hebrew word for king.

Well, there's always *that* wiki page:

Moloch (representing Semitic מלך m-l-k, a Semitic root meaning "king") – also rendered as Molech, Molekh, Molok, Molek, Molock, Moloc, Melech, Milcom or Molcom – is the name of an ancient Ammonite god.[1] Moloch worship was practiced by the Canaanites, Phoenician and related cultures in North Africa and the Levant.

As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians and Canaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents. Moloch figures in the Book of Deuteronomy and in the Book of Leviticus as a form of idolatry (Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch"). In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various Baalim and Caananite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6; Jer. 7:31, 19:2–6).

Moloch has been used figuratively in English literature from John Milton's Paradise Lost (1667) to Allen Ginsberg's "Howl" (1955), to refer to a person or thing demanding or requiring a very costly sacrifice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molech

MLK/King [of Diversity]/Molech/shame

FWIW, YMMV

Oh and one more thing...

FUBO

22 posted on 02/12/2013 11:06:41 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: neverdem

Bing West gets it. He has been there and done that, and understands what the perfumed prices do not.

If you have not read his The March Up, I recommend it highly.

http://www.amazon.com/The-March-Up-Baghdad-Division/dp/055380376X


23 posted on 02/12/2013 11:17:13 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

/prices/princes/


24 posted on 02/12/2013 11:22:52 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Yep. You’ve got it. Don’t forget affirmative action.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 11:41:58 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Aetius

I have a bad feeling we are shortly to find out just how bad “commander zero’s” policies are.


26 posted on 02/12/2013 11:49:57 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: neverdem

This utterly nonsensical development is a direct result of the deliberate misinterpretation of our consitutional guarantee of equal opportunities to imply equal outcomes.

It is part and parcel of the federal power grab executed under the rubric of civil rights, and has led us into a cloud cuckoo land of federal interference in every aspect of daily life of which a Marxist such as Obama is the inevitable outcome.

Eventually, it will weaken the United States from within to such an extent that the nation falls under the weight of its own baggage of silliness.

Meanwhile, China and Russia are watching with hungry grins.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 11:55:33 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kakaze; neverdem
Sending and promoting our Mothers, daughters, wives and sisters to the front lines is a sign of a sick society. Instead of honoring these women we willingly send them out to die.......
it's absolutely insane.

It is insane, and to underscore this, you cannot be a Christian and at the same time underwrite the carrying of "equality" to irrational and uscriptural extremes.

Facts: About the term "radical egalitarianism:"

From the governmental implementation of the "equal protection" clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, our Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) wrongly opined that they believed they were just in departing from prior Constitutional interpretation and procedure, in order to promote a desirable "equality" demanded by cultural pressures of that time. Thus the desegregation of public schools in the entire realm under American rule was declared as a requirement, and the Executive branch applied and enforced the Brown v. Board of Education decision of 1954, and the race-based barrier to equality of educational opportunity was broken.

Take note that while the outcome of the Brown decision was consistent with the intents of the framers, the methodology and rationalization of the Justices rendering the descison was not. The unfortunate result, going forward from that, was that success here led the Justices to embark on more adventures in egalitarianism that (unlike the Brown case) really did depart from the Constitution.

Even more dismaying is the fact that SCOTUS has taken on themselves powers that are not rightfully its own. Contrary to the plan of the American government, the Supreme Court has usurped the powers delegated by the Constitution only to the people and their elected representatives. Having done so, the Court has robbed the people of the freedom to make our own fundamental moral and cultural personal and aggregate decisions, because the Court has placed itself in the position of overseeing all such matters, when and as it chooses.

Regarding "radical egalitarianism," the Court--obsessed with the equalization of leveling opportunities--interfered in many heretofore judicially untouched areas of social and political life. One such was pushing redistricting of state legislatures so as to produce the "one person, one vote" result, redesigning out district boundaries (gerrymandering) so as to equalize (diminish vote differences) based on party, racial, and personal incomes mismatches.

Another, and now a most potent of the applications, has been in the areas of race and sex. The outcome was enforcing unconstitutional awarding of scholarships, construction contracts, military occupational specialties, job descrip-tions, and entrance to military academies that have long been bastions of exclusive male dominion, etc.; regardless of marked diminished physical qualifications, emotional intrusions, hormonal events, pregnancies, etc. The qualities of great military schools such as Annapolis, VMI, West Point, Citadel, and Valley Forge have been so critically damaged by radical egalitarianism that they can no longer produce leaders of the quality they once did. Now the goal of the liberals is to snuff out the armed forces general esprit, morale, proficiency, and moral purpose.

In leveling-out the culture, the intent of "gender reformers" has been to blur the difference between men, women, and those given over by God to their deviancy, bringing "normalcy" down in the areas of mental, physical, and sexual preference, to standards once rightfully called depravity. The SCOTUS has thus presented itself more and more willing to permit intrusion into extending the reach of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, far beyond any conceivable intention of the Framers of the Bill of Rights, and their successors -- incredibly beyond any limits previous Courts had been willing to do in the cultural dimensions of racial, ethnic, and sexual behavior. And the Court is permitting this intrusion of the Executive branch, specifically the Presidency, and namely our current Chief Magistrate, Barack Obama. The Court, having made itself a cultural change agent, acts without guidance from the historical Constitution in its language and intents.

Question: Is placing women into combat roles a Biblical moral stance?

Such a definition and implementation of equality does not have any kind of support from Scripture interpreted by a literal/historical/grammatical/cultural application. This is a secular rejection of Biblical principles, and hence, a furthering of Satanic designs to undercut the Biblical, governmental foundation upon which our government was founded, that the exercise of the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and happiness might be pursued. Those are rights given to mankind by their Creator, not to be changed capriciously by a God-rejecting element minority, as they now are, increasingly.

28 posted on 02/13/2013 12:03:26 AM PST by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 02/13/2013 12:31:07 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
I’ve seen the gore of combat, seen enough don’t want to see more (That doesn’t mean if trouble comes knocking I won’t answer the door) It wouldn’t take long for women to decide that they would be happy to be excluded. Just ask any nurse that’s been to WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan or innner city hospital ER.

As far as dykes or fairies serving... I’m all for it.
We need good people on the front lines!

30 posted on 02/13/2013 1:18:27 AM PST by Ian Hawk
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To: Ian Hawk

A young neighbor gal is a medic and spent her first tour on base in Iraq treating mainly civilians. She wanted to be helping our guys instead, and requested to do that. Her second tour was in Afghanistan on patrols with our guys. Treating them, but also a big asset in the villages as she could treat the women and gain their confidence.

She was requested on her third tour to be on patrols again, so I’m guessing she was found capable. Perhaps technicaly the patrols weren’t considered “front line combat”. But her mom would ask her if she is in danger and getting shot at. “Mooommmmm - don’t ask that. But duh - we’re in the middle of Afghanistan!”

I don’t know her views on women in combat - but I’m thinking that she would probably agree that a woman shouldn’t be in a primary combat role.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 2:02:58 AM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: neverdem

“Women in ground combat” isn’t about women in ground combat. It is about women officers commanding units in ground combat so they can be promoted to higher ranks, including General officer ranks.


32 posted on 02/13/2013 3:32:20 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: neverdem
How did it happen?

Feminism.

And what will it do to the military?

Destroy the bond between men in combat, which every historian and military researcher knows is the primary reason men in the heat of battle fight. They fight for each other, not for flags, at that point.

33 posted on 02/13/2013 3:42:41 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: FreedomPoster
I was floored by what a great book "No True Glory" is. A stunning look at the USMC in Fallujah.
34 posted on 02/13/2013 3:53:55 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

I’ll have to get that on my next order.

I’m sure it is a great example of why he is able to speak on the subject here so authoritatively.


35 posted on 02/13/2013 4:05:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Yo-Yo

Exactly. Power lusting career field grade female officers are not the ones who will be doing the bleeding, it will be the young ladies they thrust into the gore, in order to advance their own careers.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 5:17:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Yo-Yo
Bingo!!..Congrats. Go to the head of the class.

Those pushing this policy believe that until female officers are able to get their ticket punched in a combat command, they can never achieve high rank.

However, in the "department of unintended consequences," this superb article in the Marine Corps Gazette "Get over it! We are NOT all created equal" by a female Marine office who has seen combat, makes the point that it will actually HURT the ability of female offices to rise to the top.

A good read.

37 posted on 02/13/2013 6:35:21 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: neverdem; Ezekiel; Saoirise
Any man who would send a woman to do his fighting for him is no man at all.

Homosexuality is the emasculation and perversion of our military. Woman in combat is the very definition of a fallen culture and uncivilized. Both are against the order and design of the Lord.

38 posted on 02/13/2013 7:05:00 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: FreedomPoster; Saoirise
Bing West gets it. He has been there and done that, and understands what the perfumed prices do not.

If you have not read his The March Up, I recommend it highly. Bump!

39 posted on 02/13/2013 7:09:48 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: neverdem

“...He cited the 1950 fighting retreat from the Chosin Reservoir in temperatures of minus 20 degrees, with one Marine division pitted against eight Chinese divisions. Had women comprised 15 percent of his division, Barrow concluded, the Marines would have lost the battle.”

Roger that.

“We fought so hard we ran out of ammunition..”

http://www.frozenchosin.com/


40 posted on 02/13/2013 7:18:48 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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