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Dorner Found in Big Bear
CBS ^ | 02/12/2013

Posted on 02/12/2013 1:22:46 PM PST by LadyEleanor

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To: elpinta

They did try to shut it down last night but my feed came back just in time to hear the whole thing go down. They also tried to make everyone stop ‘tweeting’. We might ought to start re learning some of the old technology to communicate again before the SHTF and Obama hits the kill switch on the Internet.


901 posted on 02/13/2013 10:26:13 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Well, I was talking about real scanners (not those audio feeds via the Internet), such as the ones you can listen ‘live’ with analog or digital/trunked systems.

Obviously those are only useful within the respective system range, but I know there was talk to prevent people to use them, mostly mobile, except for law enforcement or media... good thing I am set!


902 posted on 02/13/2013 10:36:28 AM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: elpinta

Glad you are set too....lol. I obviously need to work on my set up some more with an attempt to bypass the Internet.


903 posted on 02/13/2013 11:00:06 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: elpinta
No need to outlaw scanners...Big gov are changing them all to digital encrypted instead of analog...

Eventually, you won't be able to hear anything on your scanners.

904 posted on 02/13/2013 11:14:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Some of us have the codes. Problem is, they do change and we eventually die.


905 posted on 02/13/2013 11:15:42 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/)
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To: SisterK; 444Flyer
Unsure as to the veracity of this tweet, but it shows a screen capture that says:

"New Developments: Police: Charred remains are not Dorner. Body found confirmed to be female"

Twitter Pic

906 posted on 02/13/2013 11:20:03 AM PST by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Omg..let’s pray this is a hoax.


907 posted on 02/13/2013 11:25:38 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: elpinta

>> “The scanner traffic regarding the orders to ‘burn’ was not meant for the public.” <<

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True, but some cops are so ignorant that they fail to realize that their coded squelch transmission has no effect on a receiver that has coding turned off.

The Mensa squad.

They cannot outlaw receiving a broadcast signal, but if they should start encrypting their signal, they can outlaw cracking the encryption.


908 posted on 02/13/2013 1:03:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Wow, so they have murdered another innocent civvie?

Then where is Dorner?


909 posted on 02/13/2013 1:07:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: All

The leftists are now trying to say that the right is supporting Dorner and making a hero out of him.

Those a**holes never quit, do they?


910 posted on 02/13/2013 1:33:32 PM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: penelopesire
I am pleased the cop killing Obama supporting gun grabbing racist jackhole is dead.

My issue is how he got dead.

We have a President that grants himself the power to kill Americans by putting them on a “kill list”.

We have the LAPD granting itself the right to call for and follow through with a summary execution of an American.

In both cases “authorities” are deciding when the right of due process can be revoked.

911 posted on 02/13/2013 1:48:01 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: LadyEleanor

Hmmmm...

http://patdollard.com/2013/02/chris-dorners-mom-spotted-drinking-wine-eating-chips-while-watching-standoff/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


912 posted on 02/13/2013 1:48:09 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Gabrial

I believe we are seeing the same danger signs here.


913 posted on 02/13/2013 1:53:14 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: MeganC

That is interesting because I see the left giving the Obama loving cop killer the real support on social media. All the questions I have seen from the right are about process.


914 posted on 02/13/2013 2:00:30 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

That MUST be a hoax.

Still- this whole thing has been handled in a pretty strange way..


915 posted on 02/13/2013 2:05:08 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: editor-surveyor

Don’t know that the body report isn’t a hoax. Something seems askew.


916 posted on 02/13/2013 2:11:34 PM PST by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: SE Mom

I pray so and also agree on your second point. Not sure if you read my post about listening to the whole thing on the scanner yesterday, but I can’t help but be disturbed by it all. Even my sweet hubby and I had some disagreements over it, but he did understand my point at least...lol. I can see both sides, but shiver to think that burning down private property would be a police force’s plan A in any matter.


917 posted on 02/13/2013 2:20:06 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire
I find it shocking and frightening that the domestic Rules of Engagement to be so loose that the police can destroy life and property without positive ID they had no idea if there were hostages or if he was even in there for sure

ZERO regard for citizens property

IIRC arent the ROE's in a war zone more strict ? somethings seems a little backwards here in bizarro world

the Marines at Haditha Iraq were indicted by congressman Jack Murtha and convicted by the media for less than this they spent several years in jail before being found not guilty and released

In that case, the Marines swept a house that gunfire was coming from as a roadside bomb killed their own, they risked their lives sweeping the house room to room saving the supposed innocents in the house and killed the guilty. One of the "innocents" from inside the house protested to a media embed following the unit and caused the Marines about 6 years in the slammer awaiting trial

918 posted on 02/13/2013 3:20:54 PM PST by KTM rider ( paychecks have been replaced by weekly allowances)
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To: KTM rider

Excellent points on the domestic rules of engagement. Obama put tougher ROE on our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq to protect the homes where known AQ and Taliban were shooting from.


919 posted on 02/13/2013 3:27:00 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: KTM rider

Thought you might be interested in the timeline and contents from my tweets while listening to scanner yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2988192/posts?page=224#224

The reports of shots fired ‘from the house’ came within seconds of reports of ammo exploding from fire. So those reports could have been ammo exploding from fire and not shots fired.
Media also passed along that the police wanted everyone to ‘stop tweeting’...lol...like Dorner was sitting around reading twitter...LoL. The nutter cop killer was holed up in the house with near about 2000 cops bearing down on him. I doubt he had time to check Twitter. He was also probably hit earlier in the street shoot out because I also heard reports of blood in house and some concern about something by the door when the armored vehicle began tearing down the walls of the cabin.


920 posted on 02/13/2013 3:45:55 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: PuzzledInTX

1. Hopefully this is a sick hoax.
2. Never assume anything.


921 posted on 02/13/2013 5:21:01 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: MeganC; penelopesire
“The leftists are now trying to say that the right is supporting Dorner and making a hero out of him.”

Then they are fools. We support the Constitution, something they might try reading before their tyrant leader attempts to completely dispose of it.

922 posted on 02/13/2013 5:21:27 PM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Figment

“Burning the truck makes no sense”

If he’d just left it, maybe in the ditch, it would have been covered by snow the next morning. What better way to attract attention to yourself than a fire...


923 posted on 02/13/2013 5:24:43 PM PST by Figment
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To: PuzzledInTX
Please let that be a hoax. Especially, after the paper delivery ladies and the guy in Redondo whose car got rammed before he was identified.
924 posted on 02/13/2013 5:28:23 PM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Figment

I wonder if he even knew about the manifesto posted online. That’s what I want to know.


925 posted on 02/13/2013 5:45:22 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: LadyEleanor

So someone tell me again that the LAPD local law enforcement and Obama and the other taxpayer well paid individuals do not have the right to serve as judge, jury and executioner regardless of what the Hollywood media hacks have purported that they’ve done. The MSM could paint Jesus Christ as a terrorist and they would.

The media is obviously a corrupt arm of propaganda......or do you think they serve truth and honesty?


926 posted on 02/13/2013 6:02:12 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone

BREAKING NEWS:

Dorner quit smoking today !!


927 posted on 02/13/2013 6:13:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I read your link.
But there is something very odd going on.

It might be my memory, or something else, but I remember the “incident” as reported on a local rag having occurred in Pasco County, Fl, several months ago.

928 posted on 02/13/2013 7:08:36 PM PST by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: apoliticalone

I agree. Dorner probably deserved to die, but there should have been a public trial.

All of these big publicity shootings seem to end with the guy dead or making a plea deal. No public trial.


929 posted on 02/13/2013 7:37:43 PM PST by LadyEleanor (How Do I change my tagline?)
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To: PuzzledInTX

“New Developments: Police: Charred remains are not Dorner. Body found confirmed to be female”

The hoaxer could not spell! lol .....

Body found confrimed to be female


930 posted on 02/13/2013 8:12:37 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Gabrial
IMHO you should add that the militarization of our police forces at all levels is not good for anybody, not even the police. There is no single cause for this and I would not have them by any means defenseless, but warriors are for wars not for the blessings of domestic tranquility. Every day our LEOs face greater and greater depravity and insanity. It grinds them down like soldiers who have fought too long. They are swamped in fear, suspect everyone, can't trust anyone and sometimes, as in this case, not even their brother cops.

I quote William Penn to our sick culture and nation: "Those who will not be Governed by God will be Ruled by Tyrants"

931 posted on 02/13/2013 8:31:23 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: sarasmom
but I remember the “incident” as reported on a local rag having occurred in Pasco County, Fl,

I remember the it being in Texas, because it was big news here. There may have been another incident elsewhere.

932 posted on 02/14/2013 5:15:45 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dims are stupid, period. End of conversation.)
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To: Theophilus
Agree with your points, but would add one.

The official line of the LAPD today is “We did not mean to burn down the house, we were just trying to smoke him out.”

That is a 100% lie. Recorded on the police radio was “Burn that MotherF_cker to the ground” followed by “10-4, Seven burners deployed and the house is on fire”.

It is fairly evident what happened. It was a summary execution.

933 posted on 02/14/2013 10:18:42 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Gabrial

A “burner” is a tear gas canister.

Besides, he had 10+ days to surrender and have a trial.

He chose not to.


934 posted on 02/14/2013 11:16:50 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: LadyEleanor

Post #934, my first. Just wondering if anyone has a copy of his gun toting arsenal. a fifty cal barrett? Wow. What else did he own/have?

How about a shot of him with bandoliers and all his weapons? I mean this is a second amendment abuse ain’t it? He’s a cop killer and everyone seems to be pro Dorner at least on MSM. IMHO he’s a murderer and just another reason to LEAVE California asap before the real fireworks begin.


935 posted on 02/14/2013 11:20:54 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: toldyou
"Besides, he had 10+ days to surrender and have a trial. He chose not to."

Really? When did you talk to him and get that info?

For all you know he might have tried 20 times to surrender and was shot at each time and nearly killed.

You are regurgitating hearsay and claiming it is the gospel. It MAY be true BUT I would be hesitant claiming anything the Government or the MSM is asserting is the truth at this point in time. If not I got this video you should see, it started riots in Benghazi and got our Ambassador Killed!

Be from Missouri!

936 posted on 02/14/2013 11:22:26 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: toldyou
All true.

However, according to reports, the house had been quiet for an hour. IMHO, proper police procedure would have been to use a loudspeaker to give the perp a final chance to surrender, and, if he did, he would be taken into custody; and if he did not, they would have no choice but to use force.

Then, if he refused, lob the pyro-CS canisters.

It appears none of that was done. It seemed the only order that was given was “burn the motherf_cker down”.

937 posted on 02/14/2013 11:58:21 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: toldyou
All true.

However, according to reports, the house had been quiet for an hour. IMHO, proper police procedure would have been to use a loudspeaker to give the perp a final chance to surrender, and, if he did, he would be taken into custody; and if he did not, they would have no choice but to use force.

Then, if he refused, lob the pyro-CS canisters.

It appears none of that was done. It seemed the only order that was given was “burn the motherf_cker down”.

938 posted on 02/14/2013 11:58:20 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: LadyEleanor
I agree. Dorner probably deserved to die, but there should have been a public trial.

Shoulda woulda coulda.... The problem is Dorner himself broadcasted to the world he wouldn't be taken alive and would take out as many cops as he possibly could and he already made good on it.

These are real clear statements by someone who'd already murdered unarmed innocent people simple because he lost a job. And during the shootout in the Big Bear area, he continued killing people, making good on his own statements.

939 posted on 02/14/2013 6:49:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Don’t even start that crap


940 posted on 02/14/2013 6:55:59 PM PST by Figment
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To: toldyou; Karliner

/bingo


941 posted on 02/14/2013 8:10:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: justice14

Ass. How bout you leave FR?
So the police being judge, jury, and executioner is ok with you?
i don’t give a shit what he did. We have a such thing as due process. The fact that your pissed at me for questioning the practice of just killing someone without a trial just plain saddens me. Your no conservative.


942 posted on 02/16/2013 1:26:04 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: dragnet2

We either have due process or we don’t. We’re either above our police just executing someone before trial or we’re not. Why don’t you go look at Brazil to see how that works out. Rob a bank? Police kill you. Kidnap someone? Police kill you. You want that? Go live in Brazil.


943 posted on 02/16/2013 1:29:39 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: hillarys cankles

You’re no conservative.

You’re welcome.

Did Dorner give himeself up? I must have missed that. Engaging an active shooter allows for the police (or a citizen, for that matter) to use self defense. I’m sure you’d be all for a citizen shooting someone, breaking into his house. Did that person get his miranda rights? No. And He shouldn’t have. I shouldn’t have to yell down the stairs that I will give him due process.


944 posted on 02/16/2013 2:06:12 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: hillarys cankles
We have a such thing as due process.

The USSC has also found the use of deadly force is lawful with conditions.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cjs04.htm

by John C. Hall, J.D.

Federal constitutional standards permit law enforcement officers to use deadly force to apprehend criminal suspects when there is "probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm...to the officer or to others..." and if deadly force "is necessary" to effect the apprehension.1 This formulation of the constitutional rule by the Supreme Court suggests two factors - dangerousness and necessity - as relevant to the question whether deadly force is constitutionally permissible.

945 posted on 02/16/2013 2:16:41 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: hillarys cankles
We either have due process or we don’t. We’re either above our police just executing someone before trial or we’re not. Why don’t you go look at Brazil to see how that works out. Rob a bank? Police kill you. Kidnap someone? Police kill you. You want that? Go live in Brazil.

You seem to have a wrinkle in your cankle missy.

Stop the hysterics and look at the facts.

No one killed him. If you're hold up from the coppers due to murdering people and the place catches on fire, would you not come out with your hands up and surrender?

Did they not say they heard a single gunshot near the end of this event? Did the coroner not say he had a self inflicted hole in his skull?

Seems to me, this AH killed himself...

946 posted on 02/21/2013 3:55:10 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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