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1 posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Amnesty will guarantee the democrats win most national and state level elections for the next three generations.
2 posted on 02/10/2013 6:01:30 PM PST by skeeter
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To: neverdem

We shall see. If they take a poll in the Fall of 2016 and a majority of the voters are still blaming Bush for the sour economy, then the Pubbies are sunk once again. And I won’t rule that possibility out. The Dem faithful have an endless capacity to swallow bovine fecal matter thrown at them from their Dem leaders.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 6:06:07 PM PST by driftless2
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To: neverdem

Oh, I’ve no doubt the Pubs will rise again. But the difference this time is that when the Dems go out, they’re going to take the country and its economy with them. The sad fact is that we’ve reached the tipping point where the idiots will keep electing the Santas that promise free stuff. At least until the point is driven home to them that in the end, there IS no free stuff, only stuff that exacts a price somewhere else in the economy. Before that happens, there will be economic upheaval and social disruption on a scale no one has seen in his lifetime, perhaps ever. It cannot be predicted just what will happen, or what type of shell the Pubs will be taking over, or just what can be done to set it back on course. Depends, I suppose, on whether after all the conflict and disruption, the entitlement society still feels entitled and continues to act on that. If so, there will be no stability until one group, either the entitled or the productive, are effectively neutralized.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 6:09:52 PM PST by Emile (Leftists are so 'open-minded', their brains have fallen out. -- (HT to GOPJ))
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To: neverdem

They don’t seem to be having much of a problem holding on to power in North Korea.

I submit that the NK economy is somewhat worse that the US economy.

The author apparently has never heard of vote fraud either.


5 posted on 02/10/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

This fellow makes a pretty good historical case, but we have one condition today that is different and relevant. The Latino population in the USA is far larger and growing rapidly and there is no proof or record that they will ever vote republican in large numbers. I think this trumps the author’s position and clearly predicts the near (5-10 years) future.


6 posted on 02/10/2013 6:12:39 PM PST by umgud
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To: neverdem

As if I am interested in taking advice from people on the left who “want to help me win elections.”


8 posted on 02/10/2013 6:21:47 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: neverdem

I think this is historically fairly accurate, but to put it into Pol Pot terms, history is quite possibly being rewritten before our eyes. If indeed the Dems have successfully mixed up their sordid soup of underinformed, perpetually dependent “gimme” voters, while ginning up hatred against the evil rich white folks who put the country into whatever state is the gripe of the week, then this could go on for a long time. Who knows, it could still be GWB’s fault 20 years from now. I can’t predict, and I know that almost nobody else can, either.

Yeah, it’s the economy, but more specifically, the *perception* of the economy. The economy of redistributing astronomical riches so unjustly snaked away from those deserving it the most...the poor...the underserved, the recent immigrant class...then the abstract appeal of freedom and the ideals of independence will dry up, wilt, and become cute little remnants of a once-great country in the shadow of the coolness of Beyonce.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 6:25:06 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: neverdem

“Weekly Standard’ is an EXTEME RINO/GOP-e “Publication”!


14 posted on 02/10/2013 6:32:39 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”All of this raises the key question: Can the Democrats keep these groups happy and grow the economy? The evidence to date suggests the answer is no. Witness the Democratic opposition to opening up domestic energy production, which would have been a no-brainer 50 years ago. Witness the party’s stimulus bill of 2009, which focused more on political patronage than economic growth. Witness the party’s continued efforts to push for a cap and trade system, which would kneecap economic growth. And above all, witness Obamacare, a vast regulatory system that saddles businesses with even more burdens. The Democrats have proposed all of these things since 2009, when they were voted into office to jump-start the economy.”

Obama needed a GOP controlled House to get re-elected.
Democrats can continue to push the freebees because they can always blame the bad economy and the deficits on the GOP House.
In 2010 they couldn't get away with that.
Or in 1994.

‘Obama cares for me and is trying to fix things. That's all that counts’

15 posted on 02/10/2013 6:54:28 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: neverdem
All of this raises the key question: Can the Democrats keep these groups happy and grow the economy?

IMHO YES - we have gone over the cliff just by sheer numbers on the dole and the lack of requirements for the the "taker class" to pay federal income taxes.











GRANT ILLEGAL ALIENS the right to vote and we are never turning back. If the instant granting of voting rights doesn't swamp the boat, the chain migration that follows surely will. UNLESS THE GOP FINDS IT'S GOD GIVEN SPINE AND DOES IT'S OBSTRUCTION JOB, IT IS OVER.
24 posted on 02/10/2013 7:26:42 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: neverdem

Unless Republican can recruit conservative minded voters, and run candidates who will inspire them to vote, we are going to end up with a permanent Democrat majority. The kind of voter demographic swings that have happened in the past aren’t in the cards for the future. The millions of Republicans who sat out the last election, or the people who think a third party is the cure, might have sealed the political future of this country with the last election.


28 posted on 02/10/2013 7:33:10 PM PST by pallis
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To: neverdem

The article says the democrats can’t keep groups happy in a bad economy.

They just have to keep them angry. Blacks are doing terribly under democrat rule, yet they vote almost 100% dem. It’s racial politics.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 7:49:38 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: neverdem

The last 60 years has been simply a case of Republicans, when in Government, working to pay for Democrats expansion of Government.

That model is broken.

I want the non-Democrat party to instead work on truly crashing the Government and its dependents, before they turn the USA into Bolivia.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 9:16:58 PM PST by PGR88
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To: neverdem
Either this guy is a dreamer or he is on some sort of hallucinogenic substance.

Normal electoral politics which had contributed, generally, to the historic "in and out" trends no longer exists.

The strangle hold of this pernicious tyranny that now permanently holds this Nation in it's grip will preclude any "in and out" not engineered by our marxist rulers and supported by the Soviet-likeclass of government bureaucrats.

Just as has happened historically elsewhere on the planet, "in and out" has now become "in and stay in".

35 posted on 02/10/2013 9:46:52 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: neverdem

“If the Democratic party cannot bring about improvement in the economic numbers, it will not retain control of political power. It is as simple as that.”

No, all that means is that they will not retain control of political power through the strength of the economy. They will have to find some other way.

What is simple is this: if you can’t persuade people to vote FOR you then you at least have to get people not to vote AGAINST you.


43 posted on 02/11/2013 4:13:12 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: neverdem
If the Democratic party cannot bring about improvement in the economic numbers, it will not retain control of political power. It is as simple as that. No enduring majority coalition has been able to hang on to power for very long amid such widespread disappointment over the economy.

Institutionalized, computer-run vote fraud has now changed this dynamic.

If the statement was still true, 2012 would have seen a wholesale rejection of Barack Obama.

Until vote fraud, open primaries, and voter ID are dealt with, the Democrats will, with the help of a blocking media running interference for them,continue to remain in power over a dumbed down populace.

45 posted on 02/11/2013 4:35:50 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: neverdem

Yep, it’s all about the mushy-middle. The roughly 1/3 that aren’t tightly aligned to either party are the people that really decide elections, and their primary political belief boils down to “the guys in charge suck”, so the longer one side is in charge the less the mushy-middle likes them and eventually they swing the other way. Remember 1998 and 2002 were supposed to be “permanent” majorities.


52 posted on 02/11/2013 8:50:40 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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