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For anyone that does not believe the Federal gubment is capable of anything (usually when crooked democrats are in power), I give you the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, where the Janet Reno keystone cops orchestrated the deaths of over a hundred men, women and children, mostly children, by their gross incompetence. Or you can go to the link below and read about Operation Northwoods. Put nothing past the Federal government, when the wrong people are in charge. All the more reason why the 2nd Amendment must be defended at all costs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

The Federal government is so stupid it would be laughable if it didn't endanger so many innocent citizen, loyal military and police.

The Tonkin Gulf incident is what did it for me, and it was so unnecessary, I knew full well how bad Communists are and why they must be stopped.

The issue is not whether government, federal or otherwise is capable of abuse. Speaking for myself, I completely agree that the government should have been held accountable for its actions at Waco. One of the points I am trying to make is that the ends, holding those responsible accountable for injustices, does not justify the any means, the murder of people who had nothing to do with those injustices.

Chris Dorner attempts to justify the murder of three people as payback allegedly for his firing by the LAPD and tarnishing of his name. Tim McVeigh attempted to justify the murder of dozens of people including children for the injustices committed at the Branch Davidian compound. They allowed injustices real and perceived to turn them into monsters as bad as or even worse than those they declared war on. McVeigh's actions also led to a backlash against the right and the miltia movement in particular by the general population so much so that the movement had effectively collapsed by the late 90s. Dorner, to his benefit, has a sympathetic media on his side.

One last thing is that you do not negotiate with terrorists whether they are one-man murder squads like Dorner or an organization like al Qaeda.