[neverdem]

Don't be the stupid party again, GOP. Independents, nearly 40 percent of the electorate nationally, varying state by state quite a lot, are not fond of amnesty. Remember when Eliot Spitzer was the governor of NY. He proposed that illegal aliens be allowed drivers licenses. There was a poll that showed about 2/3 of the rats were against it. Ditto about 3/4 of indies were against it. Pubbies were in the high eighties against it.

Why do you think the Congress didn't touch comprehensive immigration reform when the rats had supermajorities in both houses? Their "moderate" posers in both houses knew it could get them unelected. Ditto "card check" for the unions and climate change nonsense.

[Oatka]

for an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

Make that an additional 30-40 million, most going on Social Security and a lot on SSI - as per Ted Kennedy's Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 aka "Family Reunification Act" aka Bring relatives up and immediately put them on SS or SSI. Legals do this as well.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Demographic info. in this article very interesting.

[moonshinner_09]

Let me get this right,in order to finish the border fence is based upon the condition of passing Immigration reform ?

[bert]

The thrust of the article is pressure produced by out of control increasing fertility rates, especially those in Latin America. The resultant migration puts pressure on destinations. A reduction of the birthrate diminishes the flow and resultant pressure.

The same phenomena is present in Europe where fertile Africa is the problem. Fertile Africa is fertile Islam, a much more severe problem.

You cite numbers opposing drivers licenses etc but the other poll of jobs provided trumps the other. Illegals have in fact been accepted and integrated into the society. The trend began when there was very low unemployment, in fact beyond full employment. There was more to be done than there were people to do it.

That trend is now reversed. We can count the unemployed, even lie about it. I’m not sure we can count the illegal unemployment. I’m not sure how many there are and if the 11 or 12 million still have jobs. I also don’t know the demographic of those who wouldn’t take the jobs that the illegals came into. Are they the bulk of the 17% or perhaps 23% real unemployed?

Then there are the mass of real Americans who have basically chosen to not be part of the working American society. To me, they are more unworthy of living in America than those who come illegally but actually productively work. Those workers certainly aren’t the drag on society that the lazy urban scum are. It seems that dealing with the Amero scum is as important or perhaps more important than tossing out the productive but illegal workers.

I do not have or propose a solution. I accept the existence of severe demographic pressure that seems to have abated somewhat. So long as the big cities are out of control under Democrat control, there will be no solution.