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Rove’s idea of electability: GOP elites keep getting it wrong
1 posted on 02/08/2013 12:16:00 PM PST by Moseley
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Putting Karl Rove aside for a moment....I think the concern among many is that in some instances.....some perfectly winnable US seats in red states were lost because the GOP nominated some loose cannons. Please GOP candidates, NEVER mention the words abortion and rape in the same sentence.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 12:21:04 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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It's good to see the GOP-e finally being honest about their contempt for conservatives ... maybe now the latter will stop drinking the former's Kool-Aid every election cycle.
3 posted on 02/08/2013 12:22:08 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Moseley
Great article.

I and a few others were making these points on another thread the other day.

Key point take home message:

Insider theories don’t seem to work in real life

Made it big to make it clear.

Next question is: do the insider/elite know their theories don't work?

I think they must because it is so easy to assess -- Mitt Romney being the best test case.

So they are using this argument essentially as a subterfuge for retaining as much control and power as they can.

4 posted on 02/08/2013 12:24:08 PM PST by ifinnegan
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Politics is war. Democrats and their acolytes in the media, educational, and labor establishments are great at one thing: DEMONIZING Republicans. We need to fight fire with fire and DEMONIZE Democrats. Milquetoast Republican candidates who think they can win by being more reasonable and having better policy positions are laughably naïve.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 12:51:39 PM PST by vekzen
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Politics is war. Democrats and their acolytes in the media, educational, and labor establishments are great at one thing: DEMONIZING Republicans. We need to fight fire with fire and DEMONIZE Democrats. Milquetoast Republican candidates who think they can win by being more reasonable and having better policy positions are laughably naïve.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 12:51:49 PM PST by vekzen
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Elections are strange events sometimes for reasons we can’t really pin down. I’m not going to look up the numbers but Romney got more votes across the CD 18 race than did West. That I don’t understand even with the CD district lines being redrawn.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 12:57:02 PM PST by deport
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A very telling point can be made by contrasting the Tea Parties' victory, in 2010, with the Republican Disaster, engineered by the analytically dysfunctional Karl Rove, in 2006!

Rove is all about memorizing old data. He has no clue as to how to actually change people's attitudes & perceptions on issues. Hence he has Republican candidates chasing after Leftist voters, rather than even trying to ween Leftist voters--many of whom are simply misled innocents--away from failed policies.

The kindest thing one can say about Karl Rove is that he is incompetent.

William Flax

17 posted on 02/08/2013 1:04:08 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Moseley; ntnychik; potlatch; onyx
Steve King announced on WHO Des Moines 1040AM last night Karl Rove is targeting him.

Harkin will not run next year.

Harkin of "heap o' dung" infamy, grinning like a hyena with Daniel Ortega and Kerry who served North Vietnam.

Karl Rove who bashed Sarah Palin and let Bush's poll numbers tank.

Karl Rove who saddled us with unspeakable losers McCain and Romney.

Steve King presents on every issue as the principled conservative: fiscal, social, defense.

Second Amendment, sanctity of life, border, you name it.

Rove's idea of a good time is John Boehner caving like a spelunker.

I can't see Rove and Boehner welding on their Cat in an Iowa field--

--yet they do seem to produce considerable manure.


KARL ROVE BUS TOUR OF DEMOCRAT MONOPOLY

18 posted on 02/08/2013 1:13:40 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Moseley; All

The Liberal Agenda Media loves nothing more than to demonize debate on viewpoints that are different from theirs.

The maturity level of a Liberal is that of a teenager, Ben Stein calls it “Juvenile.”

Middle-of-the-road guys like me that believe that there should be NO Federal borrowing, “selling” of US Bonds, or anything else that causes the damned Federal Government to live beyond its means, are wasting our time reasoning with Liberals.

While the Liberals couch all of our reasoned discussions as “wedge” issues that will splinter the GOP, we need to continue to focus on where WE as the GOP has gone onto the wrong track.

Let us consider that the GOP is a football team. One of the Assistant Coaches is Karl Rove. Karl’s strong suit is the Buckley Rule: “Support your team mates if : 1) They are athletes that you like, and 2.) If you think they can win the next game.”

[Note: the real Buckley Rule is: “ Support the most Conservative candidate, that can win the election. In the last election the GOP followed the Buckley Rule to the letter and chose Socialist, Father of Romney”care,” never-attack-your-opponent, wussy, Mitter-or-Mutter Romney.]

Back to GOP Football. Ass. Coach Rove picks out his choices for the O-Line, and to a man they agree that there is no sense playing any game this season because there is no way that they can win the Football Game. The Opposition has just to many bad things to say and print in their news shows and newspapers, well -— - - - it is just to hard!

The sponsors, (you and me), of this GOP Team are tired of the self-defeating Buckley Rule, and want the rule and Ass. Coach Rove sent back to the locker room where the trainers can work some sense in Rove.

Quarterback Boehner does not like some players, and has already sent 3 of them to warm up the bench. Q. Boehner is driven to tears fearing that Middle Line Backer Reid knows all of Boehner’s passing routes. Reid’s team does not play fair! Boo-hoo!

Earlier this year in the Sequester Bowl, Q. Boehner clutched up and called to many time outs that his team had negative yardage due to delay of game penalties.

Quarterback Boehner is still convinced that the upcoming Debt Ceiling Superbowl cannot be won due to statements of smug victory in the Puppet Liberal Agenda Media by Coach Obama and Middle Line Backer Reid.

Quarterback Boehner is considering polling the solid RINOs on his team to find out whether or not they can beat Reid and Obama.

Right now it looks like the RINO team members are leaning toward postponing the Debt Ceiling Superbowl until Reid and Obama start to say nice things about them.

Coach Obama’s outgoing Waterboy Timmy Geihtner, has assured his replacement that RINOs on a team make it easy to manipulate them.

Geihtner claims that all you have to do is hold a Puppet Press Conference and just say “NO!”


23 posted on 02/08/2013 1:26:28 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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Tokyo Rove is living in a 30 year old time capsule.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 1:27:21 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Most people are missing the whole point about Rove. Forget politics. This is about MONEY. Rove raises millions on the strength of his reputation and inside-the-beltway knowledge and then some upstart comes along and threatens to ruin everything. As Rush says “trust me on this”...this is all 100% about enabling Rove to continue to rake in millions of dollars for Crossroads GPS, not about which candidate has which stand on which issue. That’s just the means to an end.

Always “follow the money”.


27 posted on 02/08/2013 1:35:08 PM PST by bigbob
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I just read that (according to a reagan biographer) Rove never even worked for the Reagan campaign in Texas (as he claims) he actually worked for Reagan’s his republican opponent. I think Karl has some things to clear up before he speaks for any of us.


33 posted on 02/08/2013 1:52:03 PM PST by marstegreg
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The GOP treats conservatives the same way the Democrat Party treats black people, with utter contempt! The difference is conservatives are not going to vote for Republicans “just because”.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 1:52:27 PM PST by ryan71
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Karl Rove’s idea of electability: GOP elites keep getting it wrong

Electability is less important than preventing conservatives from winning. The GOPe would actively work to insure a Democrat win to stop genuine conservatives from winning.

37 posted on 02/08/2013 2:00:38 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto
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Lying scum, fake Indians that have robbed the government of millions are much more electable, at least the democrats don’t have any trouble electing them.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 3:30:49 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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Karl Rove is like Todd Akin. He said what he said and it doesn’t matter what he meant. The horse is out of the barn. The war is on.


50 posted on 02/08/2013 5:10:41 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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