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Obama Blocked Rebel Arms
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:56 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama Blocked Rebel Arms

White House Opposed Pentagon, CIA, State Plan to Ship Weapons to Syrian Resistance By ADAM ENTOUS

WASHINGTON—A proposal to arm Syrian rebels was backed by the Pentagon, the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency, but the White House decided not to act on the plan.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, revealed publicly for the first time at a Senate hearing on Thursday that they supported the proposal last year by senior officials including then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-CIA director David Petraeus.

The officials came to favor the plan last year with the meltdown of an international diplomatic initiative to end the Syrian civil war, according to current and former officials involved in the deliberations.

The White House stalled the proposal because of lingering questions about which rebels could be trusted with the arms, whether the transfers would make a difference in the campaign to remove Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and whether the weapons would add to the suffering, the U.S. officials said. A U.S. official cited the findings of a CIA team of analysts, which cast doubt on the impact of arming the rebels on the conflict.

The disclosures thrust a spotlight on the extent to which President Barack Obama charts his own course in the face of calls to action by members of his own team, and on the extent of his caution about entering a new conflict. The White House declined to comment on internal administration deliberations.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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1 posted on 02/08/2013 3:38:04 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Yup. The peacenick twixt all them warmongers.

Anybody buying this?

Didn’t think so.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 3:44:17 AM PST by Flintlock (TRUTH--It's the new hate speach.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh really? Then what was going on in Benghazi?


3 posted on 02/08/2013 3:55:46 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

They are simply setting up the blame game and make it all the fault of the dead guy.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:37 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Sub-Driver

BS


5 posted on 02/08/2013 4:11:51 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Sub-Driver

When I clicked on this Post I got a terrible whiff of an odor of mendacity.

It was not at all pleasant to the nostrils.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 4:14:37 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

What’s that smell in this room? Didn’t you notice it? Didn’t you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?... There ain’t nothin’ more powerful than the odor of mendacity... You can smell it. It smells like death.


7 posted on 02/08/2013 4:22:42 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: Sub-Driver

Cover story.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 4:46:50 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sub-Driver

we are still waiting to hear testimony of the 30 or more US employees who were there at the time. Where are they? Why are they not being called upon to testify?


9 posted on 02/08/2013 5:07:04 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think what obozo probably said was, “I don’t want to know nothin’ about this splendid plan.”


10 posted on 02/08/2013 5:55:51 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's CYA time.

Obama didn't know nothing, no how. Evah.

11 posted on 02/08/2013 6:00:19 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Since Satan is the father of lies, then I guess Obama is Satan’s Trayvon.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 6:00:53 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m glad it’s coming out this way. When the eventual testimony starts to leak, it will be clear he’s been caught lying (again), and it will blow up in his face, big time. Of course at the top level, they’re ALL a pack of liars. So lacking a voice of credibility (or three) from inside the CIA operation, it will be hard to make anything stick. If we do get that testimony, it will be very damaging to Zero, long term.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 6:01:43 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: elpadre

Yes, where are those that were on the ground? A senator (forget which one) noted this fact in yesterday’s hearings with Panetta/Dempsey....noted how unusual it was to NOT hear from them after all this time.

So, if arms WERE actually being funnelled through Libya, wonder who will take the fall? Petraeus? He’s gone now.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 6:10:13 AM PST by Girlene
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To: freeangel

I think you’ve got it!

Besides, maybe the people he really wanted to arm were even more extreme than even our Muslim-loving State and Defense Departments could tolerate, and he needed to use the back-channel of Benghazi. That way he could maintain deniability when the “rebels” turned out to be Al Qaeda, bringing another day of the glorious Arab Spring to the Middle East.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 6:18:53 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

The anti radical Islam bias can go overboard.

It seems that while someone here, State Department, CIA, DOD...... was involved in moving surplus arms to Syria, the other end of the pipeline was Turkey.

That is, the Turkey/GCC coalition would disperse the arms to those units deemed most desirable and not the radical yahoos founded for the specific purpose of bringing them down. It is also worthwhile to note that those units include Special Forces advisors provided by the coalition


16 posted on 02/08/2013 6:29:11 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Timber Rattler
Glenn Beck Connects the Dots in Benghazi Attack: ‘This Is Fast and Furious Times 1,000′
17 posted on 02/08/2013 6:36:29 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bert

I think what you have suggested was probably the aim of the overt US attempt to provide arms, but I think that Obama probably didn’t want the arms going to those people (who may actually have been some “rebels” who simply didn’t like Bashir but weren’t AQ).

Obama always seems to want to go against professional advice and do his own loopy thing, and I think he believes that, deep down inside, AQ are really the good guys. They’re just misunderstood...


18 posted on 02/08/2013 6:45:29 AM PST by livius
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To: Venturer
men·dac·i·ty
[men-das-i-tee]
noun, plural men·dac·i·ties
1.the quality of being mendacious; untruthfulness; tendency to lie.
2. an instance of lying; falsehood.
19 posted on 02/08/2013 6:50:20 AM PST by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Those foreign Al Qaeda mercenaries wouldn't last a week against the Syrain Army without arms from the US/NATO. That's obvious.

What is really interesting is that the Obama Regime had to put out this BS story in the first place. It shows that this CIA/Al Qaeda gun running story is gaining traction with the public. The is exactly the same reason they had to put out that picture of Barry shooting a shotgun.

Don't look for the GOP to go after Obama on this issue. Barry is just continuing a policy that began under the Bush Regime in 2007.

WSJ: To Check Syria, U.S. Explores Bond With Muslim Brothers

Never forget that Al Qaeda was created by the US government and used to go after the Russians in the 80's, the Serbians in 90's, and Libya in 2011. Yet we Americans have had our 4th Amendment rights eviscerated, our Grandmothers groped at the airports, and the local police militarized and federalized because the Al Qaeda boogieman might get us. See how that works.

20 posted on 02/08/2013 7:03:08 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Pants on fire.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 7:13:37 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: China Clipper

Obama is the King of Mendacity.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 7:41:44 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver

If Obama blocked it, they why were they doing it?

Couldn’t be that they lie could it? Couldn’t be that the Bengazi ripples are getting a bit close to home and Homie don’t wanna face the music.

Nah, Bambi is a real leader, I am sure he abandoned those 30 Americans to the terrorists for a good reason. I am trying to figure out a good reason, but, thats above my pay grade. Try as I might, it is hard to justify Treason in my simple mans mind. Just can’t figure out a justification. Perhaps I am just not progressive or enlightened enough.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 7:51:30 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's simple. Vladimir said back off and Obama said, "Yes Comrade Putin." Doesn't want to upset his commie buddy does he? After all, they have the same goals.
24 posted on 02/08/2013 8:01:18 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The whole Administration agreed, and boots were on the ground, ships were underway and unloaded with arms, but somehow, his godliness King Barack stopped the guns with his infinite wisdom and magic wand.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 9:11:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What was OK with Obama: Exporting thousands of machine-guns to Mexican Narco King-pins. With the goal of boosting headlines of grisly mass-murders.

What is NOT OK with Obama: Secretly arming rebels.

CAN ANYONE SQUARE THAT THERE CIRCLE......?

Sorry, that dog don’t hunt.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 11:59:58 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama Blocked Rebel Arms>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHA...HA!

I have never in my life seen such a cadre of lying son of a biatches. They have had several months since Benghazi to parcel out the latest meme.

Obama is a cold blooded fascist. You bet he wanted the dispersal of those arms to the mujahadeen. Why do you think that Obama wanted Gadaffi killed off by the mujahadeen whom Gaddaffi killed on sight as an ally of the USA against them? Obama wanted the entire Magreb lit up for the benefit of the Saudis and Islamofascists everywhere.The jihad will now decend into the black heart of Africa instead of into the Saudi peninsula.The Sauds are off the hook and will retain Mecca for another generation , when Iran gets the bomb Israel will not allow it to go any further, so the Sauds are quite content right now. Not one Muslim nation can now mount an attack against them.And Obama is keeping the price of oil high for them, with the help of environmentalists at home in the USA.

Obama is fullfilling his debt to the King of Saud. He is also disempowering America. It is past time that Obama was GONE!

Obama didn’t want to arm up the mujahadeen? WHAT A LAUGH!!!


27 posted on 02/08/2013 2:06:27 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Flintlock

It’s all lies to cover ______’s ass. Arms were given to Syrian rebels. Then some of those arms were used to kill four Americans.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 3:06:05 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Sub-Driver

What a load of horse crap! This is “leaked” this long after Benghazi exposed they WERE shipping arms to Syria via Turkey, destined for the “rebels” who were al-Qaida. And... the NEXT shipment was to go with help from Ambassador Stevens... but the local Libyan al-qaeda found out and uh... intervened.

Said weapons have made it to Mali, just in time for the gas refinery hostage taking and continued unrest.

The muzzie in chief (obamaumao) is trying to LIE his way out of this Middle East Fast and Furious. And he is NOT going to get away with it. NOBODY believes this crap. Especially NOT General Petraeus, who was the first one obamaumao had to get rid of/compromise— the chicago way.
What a bunch of muslim gangsters and useful muslim loving idiots. Don’t forget it is the Saudi’s calling his shots— no great lovers of Syria (or Saddam) or Iran for that matter, but still paying for the martyrs in the madrassahs.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 7:17:02 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: mazda77

Oh yeah and remember he was a homo, too— so there’s that little bit of paint for the idiot masses. WHO would believe such amateur crap...? The media, for one. This is 12 times bigger than the Contras in a different policy agenda—and contrary to established US foreign policy.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 7:19:42 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: freeangel

Followed by “allah ahkbar” from the mack daddy muzzie cutout.


31 posted on 02/08/2013 7:21:17 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

“The White House stalled the proposal because of lingering questions about which rebels could be trusted with the arms, whether the transfers would make a difference in the campaign to remove Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and whether the weapons would add to the suffering, the U.S. officials said”

Riiiight. This is the REWRITE of what actually happened— a BLOWN arms deal to some very nasty ENEMIES of the US, but friends of obamaomaus’ friends the caliphate Muslim Brotherhood. What a crock of absolute refried crap— who and how did they get some idiot at the WSJ to lickup this spittle? Holy mother of God.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 7:24:29 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: bert

Someone? EVERYONE of them, who were serving the Executive who is a tool of the islamofascists. This is not said lightly. Clinton, Panetta, Petraeus, and obamaumao all were in accord. This is one amateur planted whitewash (blackwash?) for only the dumbest to swallow. Absolute crap.

Erdogan of Turkey is ONE with the Brotherhood and Morsi in Egypt. He dreams of being another Ataturk at the head of the caliphate (Saudis excepted). Sure, trust the Turks our “nato” buddies in dhimmitude.

It is more proper to characterize the so called specop “expert advisors” provided by the compromised “coalition” as being out of the loop patsies— because clearly, seasoned Libyan jihadists were shipped to Syria via Turkey along with the heavy weapons. Wonder who vetted those?

One wonders just how much more self-delusion can be bought by planted articles like this in the WSJ, cultivating yet another crop of dumbass dhimmis to defend the “good” islamics. There aren’t any, no matter how PC and good one tries to prove. One more link in the chain of useful idiots to the caliphate


33 posted on 02/08/2013 8:34:36 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Big Giant Head

Hold your nose. Another steaming pile from the media.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 8:37:52 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.sott.net/article/242425-Syria-Terrorists-Admit-France-and-US-Are-Supplying-Weapons

http://rt.com/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/


35 posted on 02/08/2013 9:08:53 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sub-Driver

They lied constantly then covered up when the truth came out.

Why should we believe them now?


36 posted on 02/08/2013 9:40:59 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Thank God for Obama!


37 posted on 02/08/2013 9:42:14 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Sub-Driver
You know, this just sounds like a lie.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 9:48:52 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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