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To: the scotsman

The Muslim population of London is 12.4% as noted.

The politics of London the capital of Britain wield disproportionate influence over the rest of the nation, just as we have states whose mostly rural populations are subjected to the politics of their largest city (Illinois-Chicago, Georgia-Atlanta, Pennsylvania-Philadelphia).

That’s only obvious, IMO. If Muslims were twelve percent of the population of Washington, D.C., I’d be extremely worried about their effect upon the politics of the nation’s capital.

Yes, I harp on Lord Achmed & Anjem Choudary as the two most feared men in UK. And on the subject of guns, there is in America the presumed freedom to use deadly force in defence of one’s home or person, referred to (ironically in this instance) as the Castle Doctrine. That simply does not exist in Britain. Britons who are forced to defend themselves with a gun are arrested & charged and that’s simply fact.

And by the way, UK Muslims are loud in their militancy & demandmaking (and criminal activity) in a manner that they simply are not here in America. Yes, perceptions matter and Muslims in America perceive that the “infidel” majority is armed to the teeth (CNN tells them so) and thus presents a danger to Islamic aggressiveness. Here they confine their dominance to the Detroit suburb of Dearborn & that’s pretty much it.

I would love to believe like you that Britain is successfully defending its ancient civilization from cultural incursion but the evidences of Muslim lawlessness seem to indicate otherwise. The Shariah patrols on London sidewalks by “Asian” thugs are but the latest example.


54 posted on 02/06/2013 10:58:41 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970; the scotsman

RE: The Muslim population of London is 12.4% as noted.

London has approximately the same population as New York City, i.e., 8.2 Million.

New York City has just 70,000 Muslims, which amounts to 0.875% of the population.

If London is 12.4% Muslim, that makes it over a million Muslims.

If what you say is true about London, the total number of Muslims in London will make it the one of the top 10 cities in America by population.

See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_cities_by_population

That’s more people than San Francisco, San Jose, Boston, Seattle or denver.


56 posted on 02/06/2013 11:10:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: elcid1970

‘Yes, I harp on Lord Achmed & Anjem Choudary as the two most feared men in UK. And on the subject of guns, there is in America the presumed freedom to use deadly force in defence of one’s home or person, referred to (ironically in this instance) as the Castle Doctrine. That simply does not exist in Britain. Britons who are forced to defend themselves with a gun are arrested & charged and that’s simply fact.’

Lord Ahmed and Choudray are not the most feared men in the UK. Only an American could believe that drivel. Ahmed has been suspended from the Labour Party. And Choudray is hardly feared here, he is a minor fool who hogs TV publicity, far from fearing him, the British people laugh at him, and regard him as a minor loony.

Feared?. Give me a break. You really should actually (in fact many Americans should) should come to the UK and you will see that many of your preconceptions are simply wrong.

‘I would love to believe like you that Britain is successfully defending its ancient civilization from cultural incursion but the evidences of Muslim lawlessness seem to indicate otherwise. The Shariah patrols on London sidewalks by “Asian” thugs are but the latest example.’

You do realise that the police are investigating and arresting these idiots?. You talk as if the British people and state are allowing this to happen, and cant do anything.

And your assertion about guns is not ‘fact’. As is your assertion that we cannot use deadly force. As a Brit, as a Brit gun owner and a Brit who has actually been the victim of a burglary/assault (Sept 2008) and who used violence to defend himself and his home, you are parroting the same rubbish I have read here a million times and that I have replied to and corrected a million times.

UK homeowners can and are allowed to use violence, inc ‘death-level’ for want of a better phrase (case in Manchester last year for example) and are, if legal gun owners, can and have used guns. Most UK people arent gunowners of course and use swords, knives etc. (BTW, when you reply, please dont quote me the Tony Martin case, I have pointed out the difference between his case and others many times on here as well)

They do not ‘get arrested and charged’. AGAIN, if you would actually bother to read the posts that I and the British freepers have posted here, you would read what the UK procedure in the event of a burglary which has the death of a burglar as a result.

I am sorry, but you are wrong. I am British and I am telling you that you are wrong. You are wrong about British right of self defence and defence of home and family. You are wrong about use of guns in self-defence.

Frankly I am getting tired of correcting the same old myths on here time after time.


64 posted on 02/06/2013 1:41:40 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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