Posted on 02/05/2013 1:16:36 PM PST by KantianBurke
12 percent of Americans are foreign born.
23 percent of Americans have at least one foreign born parent.
Something around 50 percent of the remainder are third generation americans, having at least one foreign born grandparent.
12+ 23 + 50 = 85 percent or so. :)
I’m curious why you believe this to be so low? You’d be stripping citizenship from Americans with only 3 grandparents or 7 great grandparents born in America.
Is this really the hill you want to die on?
The early 1900s had immigrants ~ but not as many as you might imagine, and due to WWI immigration fell in the dumper for a good while. Then we had the Great Depression and it went away almost entirely.
One of the stranger aspects of immigration in the early 1900 period was it consisted primarily of young men who came here to make money and OVER HALF of them returned to Europe ~ many of them back to Italy and Greece where they introduced the use of the pistol!
Can you imagine what that did to their societies ~ knives didn't work as well anymore.
The mid to late 1800s had a substantial period of immigration, and the early 1800s saw immigrants come here in the low millions from European countries faced with the famines ~ but all the while the native born American population was large and growing at a fast pace. This was like the third-world on steroids in that regard.
Currently we have the largest percentage of our population in history to be born abroad ~ 10%!!! We are also having the largest flow of folks from the British Isles in our history ~ even beats the famine years in gross numbers.
It may seem strange to you but there are vast stretches of America where people have to count back 5 or 6 generations to find an ancestor who immigrated here. I even know some who count back more than 10 generations to get to an immigrant.
Perfection? How about representatives that will enforce the laws already on the books and uphold the Constitution that they swore an oath to protect?
Geez. These guys are not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing and they believe in it wholeheartedly. They stand against us.
Sadly, the late George Corley Wallace, Jr., must have been right when he said, "There's not a dime's worth of difference between these two major parties."
“Did I strip citizenship from someone?”
I don’t see what’s different from someone who’s born in America and you, to be honest. If where a person’s parents were from matters, then I don’t see why we don’t have a Queen, since she has a better pedigree than any of us.
Citizens are just that, citizens. If we’re going to go back and do the European model (which doesn’t work), and exclude children of parents born abroad, (and their children, etc, etc, so on and so forth), we can get right back to the old model where some persons are persons and other people are more than persons.
Or we could just go by the 14th which says that all are equal in America. Your choice.
“The early 1900s had immigrants ~ but not as many as you might imagine”
You’re quite wrong about that. It only takes 1 out of 7 to have a great grandparent from abroad. If you have one out of 10 immigrate (as did in the massive immigration wave from europe, it’s easy to see how almost everyone would have at least one relative from abroad.
“Then we had the Great Depression and it went away almost entirely.”
But then they stayed. Where do you think names like New Braunfels come from?
“It may seem strange to you but there are vast stretches of America where people have to count back 5 or 6 generations to find an ancestor who immigrated here. I even know some who count back more than 10 generations to get to an immigrant.”
Not strange at all that you would know a few. I grew up with plenty of Germans and Dutch and English, and Irish and Scotch and Norwegians and even a few Italians and Portuguese. Every single one had at least one ancestor who came from somewhere else.
The math just isn’t in your favor. Sorry. Again, try posting a vanity and poll FReepers.
As a practical matter it takes you a good 10 generations to have anyone in your line eligible for the Society of Cincinatti. The biggy is one of the two 16th century societies ~
BTW, those Italian and Greek guys didn't, for the most part, run off with native born women ~ they went back home to find women. That's why you can't use the 1 out of 7 or 1 out of 10 thing as a universal condition ~ quite common for first generation people to stick together
How are WE going to pay for it? Isn’t America broke enough yet?
" One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents"
Mistakes? The parents broke the law and invaded the US. One of the principles of British and American law is that children do not benefit for the crimes of the parents.
For those Virginians in Cantor’s district, I recommend someone draft Jamie Radtke to run against him in a primary. Here’s a great article about her after VA Senatorial debate vs. George Allen.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/14/allen-radtke
And the 14th says explicitly all born here are equal. For a reason too, pairs up with the 13th.
Right now, I have no idea who I would even consider voting for in 2016. Granted it’s extremely early, but I don’t know of a single Republican I’d vote for. I liked Ryan and then he supported some really stupid stuff here a week or so ago that I was thinking “no way!”
equal protection under the law ~ that’s not the same thing as actually being equal
“equal protection under the law ~ that’s not the same thing as actually being equal”
Cross that one off my list of #stuffFreepersneversay.
The DREAM act would be tolerable if it were restricted to military service, but they’ve broadened it to include anyone who has taken some college courses. Considering how many worthless diploma mills are out there, what’s the great virtue and sacrifice in an illegal immigrant taking a few remedial classes?
I’m sure plenty in those three overlap.
And how gay is he? What a ‘pretty boy’.
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