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Postal Service says it’s immune from local traffic laws
Yahoo News ^ | 1 February 2013 | Jason Sickles

Posted on 02/02/2013 5:32:08 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

A government lawyer’s attempt to get dismissed nearly $700 in traffic tickets given to the U.S. Postal Service is being met with a hearty and humorous, Heck no.

In a Jan. 22 letter sent to both the city of East Cleveland, Ohio, and the company that operates the city's photo-enforcement program, Postal Service attorney Jennifer S. Breslin says two school-zone speeding citations and five red-light infractions by postal trucks in December should be ignored.

“In providing mail service across the country, the Postal Service attempts to work within local and state laws and regulations, when feasible,” wrote Breslin, after reminding “To Whom It May Concern” that postal workers promptly deliver over 200 billion pieces of mail annually.

“However, as you are probably aware, the Postal Service enjoys federal immunity from state and local regulation,” she continued.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: postoffice; states; traffic
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Another example of federalism over states' rights.
1 posted on 02/02/2013 5:32:23 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Postal trucks ignore weigh stations on the highway.


2 posted on 02/02/2013 5:35:12 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Erik Latranyi

I guess I missed that ennumerated duty in the Constitution.


3 posted on 02/02/2013 5:44:11 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SeeSharp
Postal trucks ignore weigh stations on the highway.

I have not witnessed that, but I know the contracted trucking companies must comply and pull into weigh stations.

4 posted on 02/02/2013 5:45:52 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Postal employees are, for the most part, incompetent, indignant and feel they’re above the law. They don’t get fired or even fussed at for their idiocy.

We often don’t get bills, cards with cash are stolen/missing. We call the post office and get no response. They’re all thieves.


5 posted on 02/02/2013 5:47:19 AM PST by albie
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To: SeeSharp
They don't 'ignore' them, they have pass throughs .. a holdover from the "Neither rain, nor snow nor storm of night" pony express days.

Just because the Postal Service is fairly passe' these days and on life support, like an elderly family member with few days left ... give some respect to the service they've done in the past.

Their days are few.

6 posted on 02/02/2013 5:49:33 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Aww, did a camera company get their feelings hurt that they’re not able to bleed someone else dry? Of course, I’m too used to hearing stories about how a ticket like this has a $100 fine, plus $500 in additional fees and penalties, so to begin with, I’m doubtful that this is only over $700.

On this battle, I’d have to agree with the USPS; they do enjoy immunity from local regulation. If there had been a cop behind that vehicle and it was pulled over and the driver cited for speeding or a red light violation, that would be one thing. But this is like writing a parking ticket against a USPS vehicle - it’s going to go into the trash can.

Then again, perhaps I’m just expressing bias against the whole concept of photo enforcement.


7 posted on 02/02/2013 5:59:02 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

On parking tickets, it use to be my rule of thumb to ignore them if in a different state but what many localities are doing is going to collection agencies. A different type of club since they cannot suspend your vehicle registration or deny it. Unfortunately cannot do it with the USPS.


8 posted on 02/02/2013 6:04:21 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: albie
Administrator, may i use the term idiot?

Waits a few moments ~ well, no answer ~ so, let me say this about that, I knew a postal employee who was fired for a $1.25 taxi fare for a personal trip on a business visit ~ which is prohibited.

I've known of window clerks who came up short as little as 60 cents in their cash drawer who were FIRED ~ and with the full approval and support of the entire workforce.

In USPS you get fired for theft however small. You can lose your wallet on the workroom floor and come back a month later and it'll be where you dropped it, untouched, unmolested every bill intact.

You can do that in Saudi Arabia as well ~ but here you can do that ONLY in the post office.

Not that you are telling a lie about getting your mail stolen, but you are!

9 posted on 02/02/2013 6:08:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: CORedneck
A classic problem is the weights and measures guy in the state government who tries to force the post office to let him certify their scales.

Does not happen ~ over the years I've heard of a number of these guys getting belligerant and then finding themselves in a jail cell.

You enter the door you are in a federal jurisdiction. You drive on a road with postal delivery service, or federal funding, you're on a post road. Sure, they let you have your own state laws, but they can actually place their own requirements on those post roads ~ e.g. how far from the curb to put your mailbox, how high it's got to be, etc. It's subtle, but it exists ~ they also define 'gate' ~

10 posted on 02/02/2013 6:11:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Erik Latranyi

Oh great, now ‘going postal’ gets diplomatic immunity.


11 posted on 02/02/2013 6:15:25 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

afaik, as it was ezplained ot me manyyears ago, the mail hasa bsolute immunity from traffic laws. this apparently dates back forever as mail is considered a priority. right or wrong.


12 posted on 02/02/2013 6:18:06 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Erik Latranyi

13 posted on 02/02/2013 6:18:50 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: muawiyah
Not that you are telling a lie about getting your mail stolen, but you are!

I don't know what planet your from but postmen get arrested and prosecuted all the time for theft of mail. Admittingly it is a tiny % of the total force but it is a on going problem. If you doubt this just google Postmaster arrested to learn that the problem starts at the top!!!

14 posted on 02/02/2013 6:27:59 AM PST by ontap
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"Not that you are telling a lie about getting your mail stolen, but you are!"

US postman steals over 2,000 games

Postal worker confesses to stealing $40,000 worth of valuables in mail

Any questions?

15 posted on 02/02/2013 6:28:30 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: albie
Simple solution to your problem. Take down your mail box, and don't mail anything.
16 posted on 02/02/2013 6:57:48 AM PST by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: muawiyah
Paranoia about PI entrapment would cause a major theatrical production on the work room floor if a penny or a stamp were found on the floor. Holding it up high overheard for the PI to see, and announcing loudly that you were taking it directly to a supervisor.

I saw forgotten purses, (never mine, as I couldn't find one to match my boots,) left on sorting cases for days without anyone taking the chance on it not being a plant.

17 posted on 02/02/2013 7:13:44 AM PST by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

For people who speed and run red lights, you would think it wouldn’t take them 5 days to deliver a letter across town.


18 posted on 02/02/2013 7:27:21 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ASA Vet
years back I was out with a PI looking at a proposed SPR operation ~ using some new method or whatever, and we were interested in how well it would do and the Inspectors wanted to know what the critical angles of observation (for them) might be under operations.

So we were standing there watching and a parcel came through with brandnew uncanceled V stamps worth, at that time, probably lebenteengazillion bucks since it was most of a roll ~ and they were virtually unknown on the open markets.

We both had a good laugh about it because it meant some other inspector, probably a local guy, didn't understand what we were doing there watching a mail line and tested us.

We let his bait get canceled!

19 posted on 02/02/2013 7:33:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Your story reminded me of
Ray Stevens - Smith & Jones.
20 posted on 02/02/2013 7:50:00 AM PST by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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