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Hagel sinking
Washington Post ^ | 1/31/13 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 01/31/2013 3:42:34 PM PST by jimbo123

It’s fascinating, actually, to see a nominee of this importance do so poorly. Chuck Hagel, nominated for defense secretary, has gone from awful to atrocious today, having to deny the obvious meaning of words he previously authored (on Global Zero), correct himself repeatedly (no, he didn’t mean Iran’s government was “legitimate”) and find himself simply unable to explain himself. Forgetting about his views, he does not radiate the confidence nor project the intelligence the job demands. It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

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1 posted on 01/31/2013 3:42:37 PM PST by jimbo123
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>> It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

They’re not mutually exclusive.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 3:46:46 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: jimbo123

They shot Kerry through there like Grease through a Goose, now they attack Hagel.

Not that I like Hagel, but I cannot stand a traitor and a Glorifed Stolen Glory, band aid wounded, war criminal.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 3:47:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: jimbo123

I’m beginning to think Hagel is a red herring. Obama has trotted him out knowing he would be shot down. By congress doing this, it will be much harder to shoot down whoever is next. That will be the person that Obama “really” wants in the job. Should be very revealing.....


4 posted on 01/31/2013 3:48:37 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: jimbo123
Hagel ...(was) unable to explain himself... does not radiate the confidence nor project the intelligence the job demands... he was not prepped properly...he refused to be coached ... he simply isn’t bright.

So he and 0bama are a perfect match!

5 posted on 01/31/2013 3:51:31 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: jimbo123

I was surprised at first that I saw nothing objectionable and, in fact, I thought he did quite well during (prepared) initial statement. The surprise appearance of John Warner and Sam Nunn with their seemingly sincere endorsement of Hagel touched me, as a fellow Vietnam Vet. I had to leave my boss’s office after the first hour to do some actual work, and apparently it went downhill from there. The media certainly are playing it as a failure tonight.

But you know what? I’ll bet he gets confirmed. This ad,imistration likely had every vote counted before they ever nominated him. That’s what they do.

TC


6 posted on 01/31/2013 3:51:50 PM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: snoringbear
Or, more sinisterly, Obama can keep sending up non-starters so that the Defense Department keeps getting run by under-secretaries reporting to unconfirmed czars for as long as possible.

This way, Obama can blame sequestration on Congress because they didn't give him a cabinet member.

-PJ

7 posted on 01/31/2013 3:51:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: jimbo123

He was a stumbling bumbling uninformed idiot today.

Hopefully he won’t become number two under Obummer in charge of the defense of our country.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 3:52:17 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jimbo123

“A long time Capitol Hill Democrat astounded by the hearing tells me ‘It is very clear from the testimony that Sen. Hagel will not be bringing the potato salad to the next Mensa picnic’”

LOL


9 posted on 01/31/2013 3:53:26 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Nervous Tick

Just about par for this administration. He’ll pass with flying colors because competence and experience are job none.


10 posted on 01/31/2013 3:54:41 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: snoringbear
That will be the person that Obama “really” wants in the job.:


11 posted on 01/31/2013 3:54:57 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: jimbo123

Freepers have been calling Hagel an idiot for years. Today he was good enough to prove us correct in that assessment.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 3:55:11 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jimbo123
It’s fascinating, actually, to see a nominee of this importance do so poorly.

OTOH watch how quickly it goes from "centrist" Obama nominates a republican to, republican nominated by centrist Obama turns out to be incompetent moron. It opens up the path for a far more radical leftist.
13 posted on 01/31/2013 3:56:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nervous Tick
>> It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

He's a liberal...All of the above!

14 posted on 01/31/2013 3:56:56 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: jimbo123

Hagel proves Reagan right: It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s just that so much of what they believe is not so.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 3:58:13 PM PST by y6162
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To: jimbo123
If the Democrats won’t, Republican senators should save the president and the country from an unqualified and unsuited p(r)ick.

Ms Rubin needs a new editor...

16 posted on 01/31/2013 4:01:03 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Venturer

So what makes Kerry acceptable and Hagel unacceptable?


17 posted on 01/31/2013 4:02:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: snoringbear

Which other names are on the ‘short list’ ?


18 posted on 01/31/2013 4:03:08 PM PST by traumer
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To: y6162

I still say he’s approved. 40 pubbies voted for that fool Kerry. Hagel is a bigger fool, so maybe 10 or 20 pubbies vote no along with half a dozen or so demholes. He passes with 60 I’d bet.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 4:03:49 PM PST by wny
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To: jimbo123
“It is very clear from the testimony that Sen. Hagel will not be bringing the potato salad to the next Mensa picnic.”

Now that's funny stuff.

20 posted on 01/31/2013 4:06:13 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: snoringbear

You are so right, Hagel is a red herring. He’s way not communist enough


21 posted on 01/31/2013 4:07:18 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: jimbo123
It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

D. All of the above.

22 posted on 01/31/2013 4:11:33 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: jimbo123

It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

I think it’s all three!


23 posted on 01/31/2013 4:23:46 PM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: traumer

I heard a rumor today that Michelle Flournoy is the administration’s backup nominee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mich%C3%A8le_Flournoy


24 posted on 01/31/2013 4:28:42 PM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: snoringbear
I’m beginning to think Hagel is a red herring. Obama has trotted him out knowing he would be shot down. By congress doing this, it will be much harder to shoot down whoever is next. That will be the person that Obama “really” wants in the job. Should be very revealing.....

Yes. And being that he's a "Republican", BO can also claim that he has paid his dues in attempts to be "bi-partisan" and "inclusive"

25 posted on 01/31/2013 4:33:02 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (If bad plastic surgeons were banned, then Bob Costas' normal face would still be alive.)
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To: jazusamo
He was a stumbling bumbling uninformed idiot today.

The man has a solid constitution but he looks worn down and out of it from what he looked like in 2007 when last in the public eye. He looks unhealthy with huge bags under his eyes. Like the male version of Hillary.
The man was in combat in Vietnam and has an amazing growing up tough life story with an abusive alcoholic father. Not that I like his anti_Israel attitude and his backstabbing GW Bush

26 posted on 01/31/2013 4:34:56 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw

I agree...He looked bad and sounded bad, the further into the session the worse it got. I was unaware of his father but was wondering if he has a drinking problem though have never read that he has.

I just can’t imagine him wanting to take a demanding job like SECDEF from the way he was today.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 4:42:18 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: dennisw

I almost want Hagel to get through just to see Jennifer Rubin break down in tears. Rubin is a pseudo-conservative blogger in the Washington Post who hates Hagel and accuses him of being anti-semitic. Although a disgusting RINO, he is certainly not that. Rubin totally trashes the Tea Party and despises Rick Santorum and social conservatives who accurately point out the moral cesspool America has become.

The Washington Post labels Rubin a conservative just like David Brooks is the supposed conservative in the New York Times.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 4:43:53 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: jazusamo

Check this out about Hagel’s honorable life story http://www.salon.com/2007/04/30/hagel_brothers/

He’s the man! Just so long as you overlook his liberal backstabbing politics


29 posted on 01/31/2013 4:47:08 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: heye2monn

Being Jewish and pro-Israel I don’t like Hagel but here is his upside http://www.salon.com/2007/04/30/hagel_brothers/

Your instincts are right on Hagel vs Rubin who also loves Marco Rubios immigration proposals which are bait-switch and end up with us being inundated by the 3rd world...same as now but even more


30 posted on 01/31/2013 4:50:51 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“”If the Democrats won’t, Republican senators should save the president and the country from an unqualified and unsuited p(r)ick.””

I couldn’t read two of the last four sentences in the article without also seeing the “r” was left out!!!!


31 posted on 01/31/2013 4:53:41 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: wny
He passes with 60 I’d bet.

Sounds about right. Stupidity is no longer a bar to cabinet level appointment.

32 posted on 01/31/2013 5:07:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: forgotten man

That was a really funny line, I told hubby and he loved it too.

I think this could become new code lingo: not bringing the potato salad.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 5:10:35 PM PST by jocon307
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To: dennisw
The man was in combat in Vietnam and has an amazing growing up tough life story with an abusive alcoholic father. Not that I like his anti_Israel attitude and his backstabbing GW Bush

Look--everybody has a sob story. At some point he has to be held accountable for what he has done and said himself, and what he might do in the future. This is a Senate hearing, not the f*ing Oprah show.

34 posted on 01/31/2013 5:11:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jimbo123

Wow. Brutal
I think this is Ubama’s Harriet Miers ploy - - throw somebody in there to make it look politically correct, and then shrug when the dupe is rejected and get your real nominee in there. I wonder who that would be?


35 posted on 01/31/2013 5:14:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

I heard a couple of positive things about her, please don’t ask me where. The implication was that it was only Obama’s war on women that kept her from being nominated.


36 posted on 01/31/2013 5:16:25 PM PST by jocon307
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To: dennisw

This assclown endorsed Ubanga over his old friend McCain in 2008.
That’s some real character right there, real loyalty, real intelligence...

Good riddance to Hagel.


37 posted on 01/31/2013 5:17:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dennisw

Yep, a sad bringing up and he served his country well in Vietnam but that doesn’t qualify him to be SECDEF.


38 posted on 01/31/2013 5:19:27 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: snoringbear

That’s how they got Kerry thru so fast. They trotted out Susan Rice and after that brouhaha, all Kerry had to do was sail thru.


39 posted on 01/31/2013 5:19:50 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: jimbo123

I knew Hagel was dumb, but I was amazed at how stupid he was.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 5:24:07 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Venturer
They shot Kerry through there like Grease through a Goose, now they attack Hagel.

Not that I like Hagel, but I cannot stand a traitor and a Glorifed Stolen Glory, band aid wounded, war criminal.

I'm wondering if the U.S. Senate didn't have the same reaction to Kerry as his fellow Swift Boat officers.

They couldn't wait to see him gone.

41 posted on 01/31/2013 5:28:32 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So what makes Kerry acceptable and Hagel unacceptable?

It gets Kerry out of the Senate (finally!)...

Hagel is already out of the Senate.

42 posted on 01/31/2013 5:35:33 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Lancey Howard
This assclown endorsed Ubanga over his old friend McCain in 2008. That’s some real character right there, real loyalty, real intelligence...

Frankly, I can understand not endorsing McCain.

But endorsing Obama instead is kinda egregious...

43 posted on 01/31/2013 5:38:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Hagel has the classic bags under his eyes of a chronic alcoholic. If he got that three AM call, he would be passed out.


44 posted on 01/31/2013 5:48:58 PM PST by billhilly
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To: Lancey Howard

“This assclown endorsed Ubanga”

At least Hagel has the excuse of being a mildly retarded.

While Colin Powell is merely a shrewd, scheming, lying, traitorous racist.


45 posted on 01/31/2013 5:56:28 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

I flush Colin Powell down the toilet every morning.


46 posted on 01/31/2013 6:45:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jimbo123
It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright.

If he's on Hussein's team I vote for "not bright at all." But that never stopped any of the appointed clueless Obama bureaucrats to date.

47 posted on 01/31/2013 7:30:21 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
"Flournoy is the administration’s backup nominee"

She's the one that TOTUS actually wants on the job.
48 posted on 01/31/2013 7:32:59 PM PST by indthkr
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jimbo123.
...has gone from awful to atrocious today, having to deny the obvious meaning of words he previously authored (on Global Zero), correct himself repeatedly (no, he didn’t mean Iran’s government was “legitimate”) and find himself simply unable to explain himself. Forgetting about his views, he does not radiate the confidence nor project the intelligence the job demands. It is unclear whether he was not prepped properly, whether he refused to be coached or whether he simply isn’t bright...
Still,Hagel filled his role, which was to draw fire away from the other nominee, the Manchukuoan Candidate, Joni Kerri.

John "Hari" Kerry? Hmm, I think there's something there.


49 posted on 01/31/2013 7:43:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: pgkdan

Freepers have been calling Hagel an idiot for years.

I’d like to state per my own rule that rather than an idiot, I describe Hagel as an imbecile. As you say he lived down to this description.


50 posted on 01/31/2013 8:01:21 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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