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Ted Cruz uses pistol grip to rebut call for assault weapon ban
Dallas Morning News ^ | 30 January 2013 | TODD J. GILLMAN

Posted on 01/31/2013 11:29:50 AM PST by neverdem

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 J. Scott Applewhite/The Associated Press
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz holds a pistol grip up to a life-size photo of a Remington 750, a popular hunting rifle, during Wednesday's Senate Judiciary Committee on curbing gun violence. Cruz said simply adding such a grip would turn the 750 into the kind of "scary-looking gun" that would be affected by an assault weapons ban. 

1 posted on 01/31/2013 11:29:53 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Hey Ted, that is NOT where a pistol grip goes. But we get your point.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 11:32:43 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: neverdem

That’s actually not a pistol-grip if it is in front of the trigger guard.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 11:33:57 AM PST by expat2
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To: El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; lentulusgracchus; ...
BANG!
4 posted on 01/31/2013 11:34:54 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
“The problem with the whole bill,” LaPierre said, is that “it’s based on falsehoods from people who do not understand firearms.”

It is actually based on falsehoods from people who do not understand the 2nd amendment.

6 posted on 01/31/2013 11:37:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: neverdem

WELL DONE!!!!


7 posted on 01/31/2013 11:37:33 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: thackney
I beg to differ ...

Feinswine, Barack the Destroyer, Box o' Rocks et. al may not understand firearms but they do understand the Second Amendment.

They're trying, willfully, and with malice aforethought to eliminate the Second Amendment. Illegally.

They're not stupid. They're evil. They're criminals.

9 posted on 01/31/2013 11:40:50 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem
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I think the color makes them "scarier" than a pistol grip does.

11 posted on 01/31/2013 11:41:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: neverdem

Cruz unabashedly exposing liberal pretzel logic again. Anyone think that Dewhurst would be standing there doing this instead? We need more Cruz’s to support and defend the Constitution.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 11:42:58 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: TADSLOS

It’s good that he’s exposing the idiocy of their arguments.

But, the next step needs to be taken - sweep aside their “front” arguments and address their “end game”,

and tell them “No, we will not allow any steps toward your end goal to be taken. It stops here.”


15 posted on 01/31/2013 11:45:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: thackney
On understanding "firearms. 2nd Amendment."

May I humbly propose that the falsehoods are from people who understand both.

16 posted on 01/31/2013 11:45:32 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: andy58-in-nh
"I was being nice."

I know. Sorry. Couldn't resist.

18 posted on 01/31/2013 11:48:28 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Plaster a few “Daisy Decals” from a 60’s VW bus on it and everything will be peace & love.

Would a “Peace through Fire Superiority” sticker help....

Naaaa, probably not.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 11:49:19 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: neverdem

Did he need permission to even posses that handle in DC?

Poor guy, he is arguing logic with people who think even unloaded guns can shoot and kill people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHsX7STHqNg&feature=youtu.be

Best of luck Ted -


20 posted on 01/31/2013 11:50:48 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The grip device does not have to be at the rear stock. If it is anywhere on the rifle it is verboten. You can put “pistol grips” on the forestock and that is a ban item on the “assault” weapon ban.


21 posted on 01/31/2013 11:51:24 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: neverdem

How long before the dims scream about Ted Cruz breaking the DC gun laws by using as pistol grip while blissfully ignoring david gregory...


22 posted on 01/31/2013 11:52:30 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I want to attach a pistol grip to my car’s door handle and put a scope on the roof...

then pain it black with krylon paint... (it is brown right now)

Then get a bumpersticker saying: “This is an Assault Vehicle”


23 posted on 01/31/2013 11:54:20 AM PST by GraceG
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To: BwanaNdege


24 posted on 01/31/2013 11:55:10 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TADSLOS

>> Anyone think that Dewhurst would be standing there doing this instead?

No. Good on Sen. Cruz. The junior Senator has quickly turned into the leader of the Texas pair.

But where is CORNYN in all this?

John Cornyn, eleven years in the Senate; he of the white-horse and ten-gallon-hat conservative big talk commercials (just before election time).

You know... the SENIOR Senator of the Great State of Texas.

Where the hell is Cornyn??!?

He should be FRONT AND CENTER LEADING THE CHARGE defending our rights!


25 posted on 01/31/2013 11:55:29 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: neverdem

They know damn right well what they’re trying to ban, and they don’t give a crap about these demonstrations.

A bigger question for the good Senator to ask is:

“The Dept Homeland Security just bought 7000 semi-auto AR-15s and calls them “Personal Defense Rifles”; why is it that the EXACT same rifle, legally purchased and in millions of Civilian hands is somehow magically transformed into an “Assault Rifle”?


26 posted on 01/31/2013 11:58:18 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

And thats why we keep losing, because people focus on irrelevant minutia instead of supporting someone fighting for our freedoms.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 11:59:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Cornyn turned RINO at some point during Bush’s presidency. He’s a lost cause.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 11:59:33 AM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I actually prefer the Hello Kalashnikov myself.


29 posted on 01/31/2013 12:00:38 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Nervous Tick
Where the hell is Cornyn??!?

Too busy playing senate parlor games with McStooge over the Hagel nomination.

30 posted on 01/31/2013 12:01:08 PM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

someone post a picture of a thompson sub machine gun and you will see that many versions of it have a pistol grip forward on the gun in the appoximate location where cruz is holding it.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 12:07:13 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: driftdiver

“And thats why we keep losing, because people focus on irrelevant minutia instead of supporting someone fighting for our freedoms.”

Chill DD, I support Ted completely. A little humor is good for morale.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 12:09:06 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: expat2

That’s actually not a pistol-grip if it is in front of the trigger guard.

************

I suspect Cruz should have used some tape and taped the plastic to the photo rather than holding it up. My guess is it has moved about while he is talking and not looking at the photo, assuming he knows where it goes in the first place.

But his point is valid in that it doesn’t change the weapon as to being more or less dangerous. JMO


33 posted on 01/31/2013 12:09:48 PM PST by deport
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“The Dept Homeland Security just bought 7000 semi-auto AR-15s and calls them “Personal Defense Rifles”; why is it that the EXACT same rifle, legally purchased and in millions of Civilian hands is somehow magically transformed into an “Assault Rifle”?

Actually, DHS asked for a bid on 7,000 SELECT FIRE "AR-15-type" firearms - and, YES, they call them "Personal Defense Rifles." That means that DHS considers FULL AUTO guns to be for personal defense. I should think that such a definition would be useful in any number of state and federal court cases.

34 posted on 01/31/2013 12:14:32 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: expat2
That’s actually not a pistol-grip if it is in front of the trigger guard.

They've got that covered in the bill: "(42) The term ‘forward grip’ means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip." So, even if it's not actually a pistol grip, if it functions as one in the mind of the Chief Libtard in Charge, it is one.

Worse, the Remington that Cruz is displaying could be banned under the act as having a pistol grip already: "(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumb-hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip."

In the case of the Remington, the forward section of the stock is close enough to a "grip" to get it outlawed if the CLiC deems it so.

35 posted on 01/31/2013 12:14:43 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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[someone post a picture of a thompson sub machine gun and you will see that many versions of it have a pistol grip forward on the gun in the appoximate location where cruz is holding it.]

A number of tactical shotguns have a forward grip.

36 posted on 01/31/2013 12:16:37 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: thackney
The anti-gun faction cannot be differentiated from the Guise faction during the French religious wars EXCEPT for the fact none of them are allowed to attend mass!

To that degree most of it is just bald-faced hatred of Protestant America ~ see their code words for that ~ hillbillies, Southerners, red-necks.....

Frankly religious discrimination when it comes to eligibility for America's most fundamental rights is probably a violation of the law and should be vigorously punished!

We must start at the top

37 posted on 01/31/2013 12:23:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Abathar

Your post is very insensitive. I’ve lost several imaginary friends to shots fired from unloaded guns.


38 posted on 01/31/2013 12:27:28 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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39 posted on 01/31/2013 12:27:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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“from people who do not understand the 2nd amendment. “

They understand it, and the Declaratin of Independence, quite well.

They are trying to restrict our ability to use force to oppose them. This has nothing whatsoever to do with saving the chirren from evil guns.

Obama et al organized at least three armed citizen revolts against sitting governments recently, they understand very well what armed civilians can do with “military style weapons”.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 12:28:27 PM PST by DBrow
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Good on Sen. Cruz. The junior Senator has quickly turned into the leader of the Texas pair.

Yep. In a short, clear, one minute demonstration he has deconstructed the entire communist agenda "democrat" attempt to violate the Second Amendment.

He produced a plastic pistol grip and held it to the photo to demonstrate.

“If this were attached to this rifle, it would suddenly become a banned assault weapon,” he said, prefacing a question to witness Wayne LaPierre, NRA executive vice president, who concurred with his analysis.

“The problem with the whole bill,” LaPierre said, is that “it’s based on falsehoods from people who do not understand firearms.”

Cruz has vowed to fight any effort to restrict access to any weapons or ammunition magazines currently for sale.

Also, do not count out John as he is attacking on a different front...

“I have a hard time telling my constituents in Texas that Congress is looking at passing a whole raft of new laws, when the laws that we currently have on the books are so woefully unenforced,” he said.

On the other hand, he added that he’s open to exploring steps Congress might take to improve mental health care, and to improve screening to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

“Perhaps it’s time to consider our background checks laws to see if they need to be updated to screen out the growing number of people who are subjected to court-ordered outpatient mental health treatment,” he said. “…There are areas where Congress can come together right now, examine the nexus between gun crime, violence, and mental health care. I’m willing to listen to serious ideas, not just window dressing, to try to come up with solutions.”

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/01/sen-john-cornyn-at-gun-hearing-focuses-on-mentally-ill-and-background-checks.html/

Not the best idea to ever be offered by John but it is certainly not the sweeping "mental health evaluations" from the communist agenda donks. If the whipped up communists are drawn out point by point, their agenda to usurp the Second Amendment can be walked back to zero.

Personally I don’t see the communists fighting for this one as hard as it will really take to push something through.

They appear to be racking up points for their "street creds."

Then again, that leaves the door wide open for little bammy to issue another EO, make another speech on TV babbling on about "We can't wait on Congress - must act now-if one life can be saved" etc... and fly around the country doing more victory lap speeches and topping it off with yet ANOTHER speech at his prospective new employers offices, the UN.

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41 posted on 01/31/2013 12:34:32 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

>> Not the best idea to ever be offered by John

That’s pretty much my point.

About the best we can say about Cornyn is “well, it could have been worse...”

Cornyn is not a conservative leader; he’s barely a conservative at all, and he’s not right for Texas. I look forward to his primary challenge in ‘14. We can do better, and the election of Ted Cruz proves it.


42 posted on 01/31/2013 12:42:09 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Ancesthntr; neverdem; Travis McGee; Noumenon

Even better...

So full auto AR15s when they own them are NOT “assault rifles”... Only civilian-owned semi-auto rifles can be “assault rifles”.

THEIRS are for “personal defense”...except when they’re assaulting civilians who decide not to comply...and even then, they’re only acting in “defense” - “personally”, that is - because they don’t want to be assaulted while they’re assaulting...and it’s all to protect us...

I get it...makes perfect sense. /s


43 posted on 01/31/2013 12:45:14 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Abathar

What!? How!?


44 posted on 01/31/2013 1:23:42 PM PST by matt04
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To: ArrogantBustard
Kitty's & Unicorns get extra Hugs & Happy Faces points!

Cuts the SCARY, MEAN GUN factor by 10x!

Whereas THIS must be EVIL!
It is BLACK!
It has a Pistol grip! (sort of)
It is a semi-AUTOMATIC!
It has a high capacity magazine! (14 rounds)
Caliber is almost identical to that most evil of evil weapons, the M-16 (.22 vs .223)

PS "I remember reading somewhere of experiments where a number of popular .22 rifles, including a Nylon 66, were converted to fully automatic fire. It was found to be the speed king of all the .22's tested, with a cyclic rate of fire that far exceeded that of any conventional machine gun in the world."

Does Sen Feinstein know about this?

/s

45 posted on 01/31/2013 1:34:10 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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It is a semi-AUTOMATIC!

Wow! That's gotta be the eeeeevulest thing ever!

Quick! Paint it pink. Otherwise, it might jump up, run around, and start shooting randomly.

46 posted on 01/31/2013 1:44:43 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem

A little recent history...

Ted Cruz was in the middle of the pack with David Dewhurst a way out front favorite until Our Miss Sarah put her stamp of approval on him. Ted’s plan was to force a runoff and then win in the second race. The plan worked.

We attended as part of a small group when he made a quick campaign stop in Temple, Texas. We were outnumbered by his entourage and Dewhurst’s agents. His father gave the introduction. BTW, he was more impressive than Ted.

By the time Ted gave his presentation we were looking for signs and made donations to both of his primary campaigns. I don’t remember if we contributed to the final run since it was an already decided race.

I finally took the signs down from our fence line along a busy state highway about two weeks ago...

As Cruz leaves a wide wake,currently short but growing longer by the day, Thank Sarah!!!


47 posted on 01/31/2013 2:23:15 PM PST by CenTex (November 6, 2012... A day that will live in infamy!!!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Polymer frame too. The horror!

First production polymer frame in the world.


48 posted on 01/31/2013 2:23:33 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: DBrow
They are trying to restrict our ability to use force to oppose them. This has nothing whatsoever to do with saving the chirren from evil guns.

That's it exactly.

49 posted on 01/31/2013 2:25:21 PM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: NFHale

Some animals are more equal than others.


50 posted on 01/31/2013 2:26:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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