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Former RNC Boss: GOP Risks ‘Permanent Minority’
National Review Online ^ | January 30, 2013 | Robert Costa

Posted on 01/31/2013 11:02:00 AM PST by old school

“I don’t think the party dies immediately,” Gilmore says. “It’s not going to just disappear like the Whigs did, since there is so much law that supports the two-party system. But Republicans will be locked into a permanent minority at the national level unless we seriously rethink our approach.”

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1 posted on 01/31/2013 11:02:06 AM PST by old school
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To: old school
"Republicans will be locked into a permanent minority at the national level unless we seriously rethink our approach.”"

No disagreement. Embracing emotional thinkers is going to take some planning and strong efforts to develop the proper "stories".

2 posted on 01/31/2013 11:04:57 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: old school

Loudly proclaiming Conservative ideas hasn’t been tried in a generation.

That would save Republicans from becoming an irrelevant “Revenuer for the Democrats” party.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 11:06:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: old school
The Socialist Workers' Party (Democrats), now have control of the majority of the Public (parasitic/welfare tribes, and Union-enslaved workers, plus the Self-Dealing Unions in the Public Sector government workforce). Controlling how OTHERS' tax dollars are taken to fund their propoganda machine (the State-Run-Media), and indoctrinating the Yewts with their self-serving Unionized Teachers, there's no hope on the horizon for out-voting those dependants.

ONLY a war will change the circumstance, OR, when the money-supply-earners can't keep up with the handouts, and the grumbling of the parasitic-classes changes the vote.

4 posted on 01/31/2013 11:08:58 AM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: old school
"Republicans will be locked into a permanent minority at the national level unless we seriously rethink our approach.”"

No disagreement. Embracing emotional thinkers is going to take some planning and strong efforts to develop the proper "stories".

5 posted on 01/31/2013 11:08:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: old school

Surrender is worse than being a permanent minority.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 11:09:36 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: old school

Another idiot who hasn’t a clue.

It’s not hard for the Republicans

1) Fight Back
2) Stop running RINOs
3) Rinse and Repeat


7 posted on 01/31/2013 11:10:17 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: old school

Lol, that boat sailed years ago. You allow over 40 million LEGAl third world immigrants to pour into the USA since the 1965 Immigration Act was passed & this is the logical outcome. Any political party with a survival instinct (like the rancid democratic party) would have shut down this immigrtion flow, but not the GOP. The GOP were afraid of being called names....so they lost the nation over it.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 11:10:56 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: old school

yeah. running as ‘democrat-lite’ hasn’t been working too well, has it. neither has been following the media’s advice, or appealing to the elites.

maybe, oh i dunno. Giving the people an alterative to the democrats???? can we at least try it? if you need ideas, ask Sarah Palin and the Tea Party


9 posted on 01/31/2013 11:11:06 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: old school

The way I see it, the GOP already is the minority wing of the DemocRAT Party.


10 posted on 01/31/2013 11:13:16 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: old school
I remember reading these same articles about the democrats back around 2005 when Republican had controlled congress for over ten years and held the presidency as well. These things go in cycles, eventually the democrats will do something to piss enough people off like they did in the early 1990’s and they will be gone as well. I'm not trying to sound overly optimistic but we are in a far better place today than we were in 2009 or the early years of the Clinton administration when Democrats controlled everything by substantial margins.
11 posted on 01/31/2013 11:14:04 AM PST by apillar
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To: traditional1

AGREED!


12 posted on 01/31/2013 11:14:22 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: old school
Results of the 2008 VA senatorial election:

In the November election, Gilmore was defeated, winning only 34 percent of the vote to Warner's 65 percent.

Yes, it was a wave election, but that was incredibly pathetic. George Allen only lost by 6% in 2012.

13 posted on 01/31/2013 11:17:04 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: old school

“... Republicans will be locked into a permanent minority at the national level unless we seriously rethink our approach.”

That’s very true, as far as it goes. The Stupid Party “rethinking” it’s approach doesn’t give me a lot of hope. I foresee amnesty, and more middle-aged, white guys trying to act hip. I’m nauseous just thinking about it.


14 posted on 01/31/2013 11:17:25 AM PST by cdcdawg
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To: old school
“Shrillness and extreme language are driving away the voters who could help us build a majority. We’re not speaking to them as reasonable conservatives. Republicans have to decide if they want to govern or play ideological parlor games.”

More tone deafness and empty chatter from the republican political class. A "reasonable conservative" is the very definition of a permanent minority.

15 posted on 01/31/2013 11:17:39 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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16 posted on 01/31/2013 11:19:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: old school

This just in. The Republicans hold the MAJORITY in the House. The chances they lose it in the next election? Nonexistent.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 11:19:36 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: apillar

Don’t agree. The left has imported a NEW people & will give some kind of amnesty to 20 million more soon. The old political calculus is OVER. We also lost control of our medical freedom, forever ! We have Obamacare. We no long longer have free market medicine.


18 posted on 01/31/2013 11:19:43 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: qam1
3) Rinse and Repeat

The way things are, you should have added Rinse and Repeat about 10 more times.

19 posted on 01/31/2013 11:19:56 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: old school

Our national choices before us now are Nazi, Vichy, or Resistance.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 11:20:17 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Tau Food

The GOP are become nothing but Obama and the Democrats’ Judenrat.

The GOP leadership surrendered to the MarxoFascists LONG ago and then set the rules to keep themselves in permanent power with the aid of Democrats.

It’s not a matter of surrender - it’s the wisdom to understand that the battle on that field under that flag is lost. Failure to understand that will result in Conservative annihilation.

We need to fight under a different flag than that of the GOP. The GOP already surrendered and are working alongside our enemies to war against those who refuse to surrender.


21 posted on 01/31/2013 11:20:17 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: old school

Who Dat? ..and why should I care?


22 posted on 01/31/2013 11:22:58 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: old school

Honestly, I think they seek it. They are happy to be in the back seat along for the ride. They get the perks of the job, the grand balls, all of it.

If they didn’t, they would be standing up and fighting. I have seen little girls fight better than the republicans.


23 posted on 01/31/2013 11:24:46 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: traditional1

“...ONLY a war will change the circumstance...”

Indeed. CW-II - watch for the exciting trailer appearing in a liberal city near you soon.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 11:26:22 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: old school

the rep party is already a permanent minority party. it can only masquerade as a major party when enough conservatives prop it up.

the RNC guy, said one very important thing to the effect that many existing laws prop up the two major parties. that is true. and that is a big reason why the only option for conservatives in blue states should be to get out of the r-party asap.

that will create the opportunity (nature abhors a vacumm) in one party blue states to start up a new conservative party.


25 posted on 01/31/2013 11:31:49 AM PST by dadfly
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To: apillar

“These things go in cycles, eventually the democrats will do something to piss enough people off like they did in the early 1990’s and they will be gone as well.”

I disagree, The democrat machine never quits grinding. It IS the “communist” party and it has goals which it has been achieving in ever perceptible strides. The GOP is a joke and I sorely wish there was a viable alternative to it. It seems that there is no disaster, great enough, to dissuade masses of people from voting for democrats. But then there truly is no loyal opposition.


26 posted on 01/31/2013 11:33:00 AM PST by old school
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To: old school

It is already too late.

When republicans let leftists take over the schools the die was cast.

We now have several generations so thoroughly brainwashed by leftist teachers and professors they do not have the knowledge or the ability to make logical, rational, fact based judgements.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 11:35:40 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: INVAR
America's Party
28 posted on 01/31/2013 11:37:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: old school

RISKS!?

Hell, we are from now on!


29 posted on 01/31/2013 11:48:28 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: old school
Gilmore, a former Virginia governor, spoke with National Review Online on Wednesday. He says he and other longtime Republican leaders have been privately fretting about the GOP’s future since Mitt Romney’s defeat. “The world has changed beneath us,” Gilmore says. “Shrillness and extreme language are driving away the voters who could help us build a majority. We’re not speaking to them as reasonable conservatives. Republicans have to decide if they want to govern or play ideological parlor games.”

Yeah, I see his point.

The shrill and extreme Mitt Romney, the far-right-wing fanatic, lost us the election, so we need to move away from his reactionary extremism.

Y'see.

30 posted on 01/31/2013 11:50:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Da Coyote

“America is at that awkward stage; it’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

Quote by Claire Wolfe


31 posted on 01/31/2013 11:51:43 AM PST by old school
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To: old school

By the time most Americans wake up and recognize what time it really is - the trains will be waiting and the ovens will be fired up. We will not have a single chance to stop our own extermination from within, and then - from without.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 11:59:29 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Paladin2

Scare the hell out of women - everyday.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 11:59:47 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: old school
It’s not going to just disappear like the Whigs did

Just wait till Conservatives finally start our own party.


34 posted on 01/31/2013 12:01:57 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: old school
“I don’t think the party dies immediately,” Gilmore says. “It’s not going to just disappear like the Whigs did, since there is so much law that supports the two-party system.

Huh? The two party bias (winner take all electoral votes in 48 states, plurality takes the seat in all other elections) is what will kill the Republican party as soon as a serious alternative pops up. There might be one election cycle where a third party is a serious threat. Then the Republican Party will either beat it back or not survive to see another election. The Republican party was founded in 1854, got 33% of the vote and second place two years later and won in 1860.

35 posted on 01/31/2013 12:10:51 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Paladin2
Embracing emotional thinkers is going to take some planning and strong efforts to develop the proper "stories".

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!



In actuality it is a coalition of emotional thinkers, takers, and deviants. This is the reality of the modern American system.

So, yes, we need better stories. Maybe with babies or puppies, and backed by pretty Hollywood starlets that seem ‘cool’ for going against the Hollywood/Higher Education groupthink. That would reach the low information voters.

But to appeal to the takers, you gotta be a bigger ATM machine than the democrats are. The party that promises the most gravy is gonna drive the taker's gravy train. Who’s gonna win an election against Santa Claus otherwise???

The deviants are a lost cause, unless the RNC wants to champion an equal rights amendment for them (but if they did, where would it stop? What about the male deviants that want to marry a whole school of male goldfish? Don't they have rights, too?)

Take one of the legs off of the democrat’s stool, and it will fall. But are we willing to dumb down the message (and spend the time doing the planning and the strong effort necessary), or sell our souls in the process of getting back power?

If people think Reagan style conservatism is gonna make a comeback any time soon, they probably also think Hannity is a conservative, Ann Coulter is gonna back somebody other than Christie, and that the RNC has a clue…
36 posted on 01/31/2013 12:18:09 PM PST by arfan (Think Critically... Act Decisively... Reflect Constantly...)
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To: arfan
It may be possible to appeal to at least some of the takers through proper emotional motivation.

The deviants, not so much.

Would you put the street criminals into the deviant bin or create an additional category?

37 posted on 01/31/2013 12:23:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: traditional1

I agree...it will only change when the checks bounce!


38 posted on 01/31/2013 12:25:27 PM PST by Voltage
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To: qam1

The ‘Elite’ want us to compromise ourselves out of existence anyway. If Republicans act like Democrats, why do we need two parties?
Examples throughout mankind’s history are full of what happens when you surrender your right to self determination.

“When the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again.” -Edith Hamilton


39 posted on 01/31/2013 12:32:50 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The GOP is merely the demoncraps’ “away jersey”.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 12:37:49 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If and when any Conservative party gains some traction and momentum - the Judenrat GOP and the MarxoFascists will go full tilt to destroy it - and not just by political demagoguery either.


41 posted on 01/31/2013 12:56:14 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: old school

42 posted on 01/31/2013 1:11:15 PM PST by McGruff (You know they can't post anything on the Internet that isn't true.)
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To: old school

They are already a permanent minority unless they stop cowering in fear. Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jinhdal????? Come on, give me a break. These men are trying so desperately to seem ‘reasonable’ that they can’t see the forest for the trees. Voters are PISSED OFF! If you can’t get angry too and lead, get out of the way.


43 posted on 01/31/2013 2:09:40 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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