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Same-sex marriage can help save the institution
Wall Street Journal Opinion ^ | January 29, 2013 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 01/30/2013 8:14:51 AM PST by Belteshazzar

More than perhaps anyone else in America, David Blankenhorn personifies the struggle so many have experienced over same-sex marriage.

First he was agnostic, then he was against it, now he’s for it.

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This is to say that Blankenhorn — a long-standing opponent of same-sex marriage — has shifted his energies to saving the institution of marriage, regardless of whom one chooses as a mate.

If you’re unfamiliar with Blankenhorn, it is because he hasn’t been barking his positions on television the way so many ideologues do. And this may be because he is not strictly an ideologue but one of those rare people who agonize in search of the right thing.

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KEYWORDS: gaystapo; gaystreetjournal; homofascists; homosexualagenda; institution; marriage; morality; pedophiles; perverts; samesex; sodomhusseinobama
“'Marriage,' Blankenhorn has written, 'is a gift that society bestows on its children.'” Very cleverly put, yet very badly wrong. It is difficult to know where to begin a critique of this guy's thinking, since so many will accept his major premise without considering that it is flat wrong.
1 posted on 01/30/2013 8:15:01 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Belteshazzar

One more point. Kathleen Parker is billed as a “conservative.” I suppose that is so if, by conservative, you mean less gratuitously, radically progressive than others.


2 posted on 01/30/2013 8:17:07 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Belteshazzar

Now how exactly offering marriage to ~1.5% of the population (homosexuals are roughly 3% of the population overall, and saying even half of those ever have an interest in marriage is generous) is supposed to save in institution for the other 98.5% seems rather dubious.

It’s amusing that the Left would have become so attached to marriage now since they spent to many decades trying to kill it.


3 posted on 01/30/2013 8:18:12 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Belteshazzar
Same-sex marriage can help save the institution

That's like saying assisted suicide can help cure cancer.

4 posted on 01/30/2013 8:22:07 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Belteshazzar

The polygamists are now beating the same drums the homosexuals did.

You know those Muslim polygamists; they’re really good at beating things. Wives (plural).


5 posted on 01/30/2013 8:23:21 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Belteshazzar

“Same-sex marriage can help save the institution”

Because it has lasted so long without it?


6 posted on 01/30/2013 8:30:14 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: Belteshazzar

Gay “marriage” is a mockery of a sacrament that most religions (Christian and non-Christian) consider holy.

I considered it to be equivalent to conducting baptisms with dog excrement instead of water.

Marriage is an institution only to the view of the State. The State has implemented civil unions to satisfy the needs of the non-religious and homosexuals to throw a party and and so that homosexuals can pretend their arrangement has legitimacy.

But it is not marriage, and calling it marriage only destroys marriage.


7 posted on 01/30/2013 8:33:48 AM PST by kidd
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To: GreenHornet

“That’s like saying assisted suicide can help cure cancer.”

I think you have mastered the logic of article admirably.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 8:34:42 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: kidd

Yeah...reminds me of some “friends” who wanted us to go with them to the “Gay Mens Christmas Chorus Concert”.....ugghhhh. What a travesty.


9 posted on 01/30/2013 8:36:33 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Belteshazzar

No same sex marriage, no illegals, no drugs, no abortion, no communism.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 8:38:14 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Belteshazzar

“We had to kill the children to save them.” —Janet “Butch” Reno, US Attorney General


11 posted on 01/30/2013 8:50:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Belteshazzar
Blankenhorn’s personal transformation has resulted in a welcome shift in the public debate. How clever of him to recognize that his allies in strengthening marriage are the very people who for so long have been excluded.

Kathleen is an idiot, and a fake conservative. She looks and sounds like one on occasion in order to fool some of the people some of the time.

The only thing that will strengthen marriage are young men and women trained in virtue and dedicating their marriage to God.

Two homos or two lesbos cannot pretend enough to accomplish those requirements.

12 posted on 01/30/2013 9:07:08 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: kidd

Marriage is an institution only to the view of the State. The State has implemented civil unions to satisfy the needs of the non-religious and homosexuals to throw a party and and so that homosexuals can pretend their arrangement has legitimacy.

But it is not marriage, and calling it marriage only destroys marriage.

...the poor dears seem to want it both ways...to conjoin with out having to recognize traditional faith backing marriage, while at the same time recognizing traditional secular advantages backing marriage...

...though I’m not sure what advantages they’d be losing by simply acknowledging the conjunction as a civil union...that seems to satisfy the situation the best...obviously thy’re after something else, the total destruction of faith based culutral mores, most likely...


13 posted on 01/30/2013 9:21:46 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: kidd

“Marriage is an institution only to the view of the State.’

And the view of the state is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public thinks it is at any one time. That’s all it can be, it was always a danger. Pope Leo XIII warned about the danger of the modern state changing the definition it uses to recognize and manage the institution 130 years ago.

The shame of it is the state has the power to punish those faiths that will never buy into whatever impossibility the state is calling marriage at the time.

Freegards


14 posted on 01/30/2013 9:22:23 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Slyfox

The only thing that will strengthen marriage are young men and women trained in virtue and dedicating their marriage to God.

Two homos or two lesbos cannot pretend enough to accomplish those requirements.

...but her argument baldly states that the relationship between the man and women is peripheral to the situation, and that the union primarily is for the benefit of the offspring...we can argue all day whether homosexuals make good parents-I tend to think they’re problematic-but her point that heterosexual infidelity (or any infidelity) has a deleterious effect on children is beyond a doubt...on that basis, her argument has standing...


15 posted on 01/30/2013 9:29:47 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Slyfox

You are right.

The institution of marriage is something not instituted by man, but by God. (Genesis 2) It will survive even the outrages we are now witnessing for the very reason that it is an institution of God. It won’t go away. It is what it is, even if the majority within a society abandon it and, thus, deny its blessings to themselves and their progeny. The society itself will come apart, but the institution will long outlast it, as history has proven many times.

On the other hand, marriage is something properly administered by the state, i.e. government as opposed to church. By this I do not mean the state can do with it as it pleases or define it according to current tastes and trends. Again, it is what it is, and the church knows better than the state the truth of that. The state can only administer it as it was originally instituted and for the purposes it was originally given: 1) lifetime partnership/companionship/love and 2) propagation and preservation of the human race. Any honest historical examination of the laws of the 50 states (since this has always been a matter of state rather than federal law) will show this to be true.

It is no coincidence that government, in failing to fulfill its proper role in upholding this, the 6th Commandment, is also failing to uphold the 4th Commandment (protecting the honor due parents from their children), 5th Commandment (protecting the sanctity, i.e. the God-giveness, of life), 7th Commandment (protecting the right of ownership), and 8th Commandment (protecting the right of reputation). In other words, we are witnessing the breakdown of our society, something which has happened to many nations before. When the law is used to protect vice at the expense of virtue, the slide down the slippery slope has begun.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 9:32:25 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Ransomed

The shame of it is the state has the power to punish those faiths that will never buy into whatever impossibility the state is calling marriage at the time...

...you’re correct, and sadly so for our humanity...but truth be told, the state as it exists at any point in time does not need to assail faith with open aggression...disagreements arising from within the faith itself accomplish that end quite nicely...
...history manifoldly bears that out...


17 posted on 01/30/2013 9:35:21 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
Parker's argument is faulty. She equates heterosexual infidelity as the mean. She neglects the true purpose of marriage and its Creator. She conveniently does not discuss what a real marriage is, therefore she cannot bring a valid argument to the table.

Marriage was instituted by God for man and woman to be open to begetting children and to be friends in God.

Whether a couple acts in fidelity to one another does not alter the original intent of marriage according to God.

The original intent by God's design is what is at stake.

18 posted on 01/30/2013 9:48:36 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Belteshazzar

“On the other hand, marriage is something properly administered by the state, i.e. government as opposed to church.”

But if the state is involved, how do you avoid eventually conditioning people to think the state defines marriage? Seems to me that’s really the big reason so many accept impossibilities like ‘gay marriage’: it can exist because the state decides it can. You even see many faiths only do ‘gay marriage’ ceremonies if the state gives its permission, even though that particular faith might already think ‘gay marriage’ is possible, but won’t act before the state decides it is officially.

Freegards


19 posted on 01/30/2013 9:52:43 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Belteshazzar
When our Founders designed our Republic, they did so with the primary intention of laying before the people a government which would compliment their morality and virtue. And they based our laws on the Ten Commandments. The distortion is quite apparent as we view what is being forced on us now.

God cannot be pleased.

20 posted on 01/30/2013 9:59:11 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Belteshazzar
Same-sex marriage can help save the institutionWell. yesss, and shooting a man in the head will save him from dying of a heart attack.
21 posted on 01/30/2013 10:15:49 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: GreenHornet
Same-sex marriage can help save the institution

That's like saying assisted suicide can help cure cancer.

Worth repeating - and true.

22 posted on 01/30/2013 10:21:36 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Belteshazzar

What next, she’ll support consanguinity in order to “strengthen families?”


23 posted on 01/30/2013 10:24:35 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Belteshazzar

Blankenhorn was mercilessly demonized by homo-nazis for testifying for the defense of Prop 8 until he could take no more. He has a lot of “penance” to do before the perverts will be placated, though.

No wonder most all of the scheduled trial witnesses dropped out. Who wants to deal with the homo-mafia?


24 posted on 01/30/2013 3:04:53 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Belteshazzar

These people want more Jerry Sanduskys for Boy Scout leaders...


25 posted on 01/30/2013 5:57:58 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Uncle Miltie

A few Muslim countries still stone homosexuals to death... That does not bother me.

There is a difference between polygyny and polyandry.

But, just for the sake of argument, polyandry and polygyny are heterosexual and produce children.

There is no logical rationale for homosexual monogamy, babies are not born that way.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 6:04:56 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: drbuzzard

“It’s amusing that the Left would have become so attached to marriage now since they spent to many decades trying to kill it.”

They haven’t changed their intention. Just their tactics. Instead of open destruction of it they’ll just define it out of having any meaningful definition.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 7:05:05 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: edcoil

Indeed. I thought their argument was “how does redefining marriage affect your marriage?” So it’s gone from “having no effect” to being its “savior”? Talk about saying anything and everything to get what one wants whether it’s consistent or not.


28 posted on 01/30/2013 7:08:41 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Belteshazzar

Barf Alert?


29 posted on 02/03/2013 9:52:01 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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