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Inside Independence, USA, Glenn Beck’s proposed self-sustaining city and theme-park hybrid
The National Post ^ | January 22, 2013 | Katrina Clarke

Posted on 01/27/2013 12:05:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There has been a Utopia, Ohio, and there still exists a Utopia, Texas. In a country with a long history of creating idealistic communities, America may soon see another added into the mix — a city rooted in America’s past, or at least Glenn Beck’s version of it.

Mr. Beck, the outspoken conservative U.S. media personality and commentator, this month outlined his proposition to create a self-sustaining city and theme park hybrid. Independence, USA represents a harkening back to a time of a simpler America and would be built on values he sees the country as now “going away from” — freedom, truth and responsibility,

“It is the rebirth of our nation through its own principles,” Mr. Beck said on his syndicated Glenn Beck program. “You can come here and we will show you the truth of the ideas and the ideals that created this country.”

His proposed $2-billion city would be based on a free-market, limited government model. No location has been pegged down, but Mr. Beck has visited “three possible sites in three different states” and has spoken to two governors, said Mr. Beck’s TheBlaze TV website.

The self-sustaining city would include a ranch for food production, a media centre, a multi-denominational mission centre, a theme park, a research and development centre, a library, parks and baseball diamonds. It would have a communal marketplace that would serve as a public space for conducting small business and sharing ideas. Americans could either live in the city’s residential area or just come to visit.

The concept was partly inspired by Galt’s Gultch, the utopian community in Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and by past initiatives proposed by Walt Disney...

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KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; galt; glennbeck; lds; mormon; talkradio
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1 posted on 01/27/2013 12:05:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like a strategy focused on retreating instead of advancing. We don’t need to preserve a slice of traditional America under glass in a museum, we need to restore the whole country.

2 posted on 01/27/2013 12:09:36 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They wouldn't let ME in ... I'm rather enjoying retirement, piddling around with tools and wood and stuff I never had time to do except just daydream about.

I just completed a dog cart I envisioned and built out of schedule 40, for my wife and alpha Lab.

What? .. You want ME to ride that thing ??


3 posted on 01/27/2013 12:19:56 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Boogieman

So what is your plan to restore the whole country? How are you going to undo one hundred years of Progressive transformation of this country? If you go to Glenn Beck’s web sites you can get a pretty good picture of what has been done to this country, who has done it, and how they did it. After you understand that, then you have to come up with a way to undo it all without a full scale revolution, because the Progressives are counting on chaos to finalize their control of the country.

4 posted on 01/27/2013 12:21:53 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He didn’t say anything about schools and I would be ... a bit cautious that it would be a Mormon endeavor.

I don’t have anything AGAINST Mormons... but I’m not one.

5 posted on 01/27/2013 12:32:11 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think our government would do their best to sabotage it, that’s what I think. Especially if it started to make THEIR model look bad.

6 posted on 01/27/2013 12:33:33 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

What happened to real men? All I ever see on articles like this is “they won’t let us do it, so we might as well give up now!” and similar.

7 posted on 01/27/2013 12:51:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here here!!
I’m very leery of a model of a utopian cloistered society, no matter who proposes it. Its a slippery slope that (to me, anyway)’ sounds cult-ish.

My town IS my front line.

8 posted on 01/27/2013 1:26:23 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Something happened to Glenn after the election. He has done a great job of waking folks up and don't say he doesn't have guts. Seems now he doesn't want to think about the storm that's coming, for whatever reason. Maybe he is resigned to a possibility that nothing can be done to prevent what's about to happen. His morning radio show is more about meaningless prattle, Utopian dreaming and not mentioning Obama. I hope he breaks out of the funk. We need his smarts, warnings, and inspirational speeches more than ever now!

Let's go out swinging Glenn...

9 posted on 01/27/2013 1:26:38 AM PST by Errant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Independence, USA” seems to be Beck’s attempt to re-create the original Independence, Missouri, founded in the 1830’s by Mormon leader Joseph Smith. Smith said that Independence had been the site of the Garden of Eden and would be the New Jerusalem.

10 posted on 01/27/2013 1:30:10 AM PST by iowamark
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“..a bit cautious that it would be a Mormon endeavor.”

So what. Then you just don’t go there.....DUH.

11 posted on 01/27/2013 1:50:40 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this Glenn’s own Agenda 21?

12 posted on 01/27/2013 2:01:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That makes it easier for the government to bomb it out.

13 posted on 01/27/2013 2:11:08 AM PST by wastedyears (Obama and Democrats to Republicans: "LOL!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Utopia, Vendome which lives inside me.

Beck is promoting a utopian and insular society that is both exclusive for it’s clique and completely unwelcoming to protect the inhabitants of what should be an island, far removed society, distant and ineffective to influence change.

He should move to Utah or Northern Idaho...

14 posted on 01/27/2013 2:12:08 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

America was founded on ideas like this.

Expansion, “Go West Young Man”, “Wagons Ho”, Lewis & Clark, Mormons, Pilgrims, our Founding Fathers, etc.

All these pioneers shared the idea that they could create a better life for their families while exercising their God-given right to choose their own course.

The right to worship as they wish.

The right to defend their family and self.

Their right to exist as free men.

It’s when we STOP saying to ourselves “How can I make things better” that we will know our American spirit is dead.

Beck is an Ameri-CAN. Good luck, Mr. Beck!

15 posted on 01/27/2013 2:22:16 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Errant
I agree with you. The nonsensical chit-chat of Glen, Pat and Stu is irritating day in and day out. And who the heck cares if they mention obozo’s name during the broadcast..such a waste of air time,when they could be spending it on how to handle what is coming our way. Glenn is a point. But he still preaches a no-confrontation approach to obozo’s dictates.

Glenn's done a damn good job of educating us with his blackboards...he was the first to do so, he has great guests with ample cred to explain fully it all, and he continues to do so on this level. He also wanted to make contact with our youth in schools...he wanted to reach the culture that has taken hold of so many people. I don't know how far he has come along on that score...I don't subscribe to BlazeTV as yet, but we are going to do so...I do miss it, BUT I want nothing to do with Pay Pal, and that is the only payment system he wants to deal with.

I will have to read further about Glenn's proposed Independence, USA. Is it wise for him to spend large amounts of money on a project such as this? I don't know...the jury is out on this one. But, whatever the outcome, we will continue to stand with Glenn, and agree with you, Errant, that he comes out of his funk. We need the old Glenn BACK and NOW.

16 posted on 01/27/2013 2:22:24 AM PST by itssme
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To: itssme

Which old Beck? There is more than one.

17 posted on 01/27/2013 2:38:02 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Glenn’s gone crazy.

18 posted on 01/27/2013 2:44:05 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: panaxanax

How did Mormonism get dragged into this conversation?

19 posted on 01/27/2013 3:02:12 AM PST by Morris70
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say that although Beck considers himself some sort of messiah, the reality is that he’s just a self-promoting asshole.

20 posted on 01/27/2013 3:09:34 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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