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Gun Owners Refuse to Register Under New York Law
New American ^ | Jan 25, 2013 | Alex Newman

Posted on 01/26/2013 8:06:51 AM PST by EXCH54FE

After Democrats in New York rammed a sweeping assault on the right to keep and bear arms through the legislature that failed to exempt police officers from the draconian restrictions, gun owners and even some lawmakers are planning what has been dubbed potentially the largest act of civil disobedience in state history. According to news reports, gun rights activists are urging everyone to defy far-left Governor Andrew Cuomo’s new registration mandate while daring authorities to “come and take it.”

Analysts say the legislation, passed in a frenzy last week in the wake of the Newtown shooting, represents the most brazen infringement on the right to keep and bear arms anywhere in the nation. Among other points, the so-called SAFE Act seeks to limit magazines to just seven bullets, require virtually all of the estimated one million semi-automatic rifles in the state to be registered with authorities, mandate reporting of patients who express indications that they may have thoughts about hurting themselves or others by doctors, and more.

Aside from being unconstitutional, experts on gun violence also point out that the draconian schemes are a bad idea: Studies have repeatedly shown that more guns lead to less crime, and the phenomenon is obvious across America — just compare Chicago or D.C. to Alaska or Wyoming. The mandated reporting requirements for doctors, meanwhile, have come under fire from across the political spectrum. Whether it will even be possible to enforce the bill, however, remains to be seen.

Preparations are already being made for mass resistance. “I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,’’ said President Brian Olesen with American Shooters Supply,

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1 posted on 01/26/2013 8:06:56 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

And they absolutely should. If a majority do this, it would show these bastards what it means by “the consent of the governed”.

I hope they do...


2 posted on 01/26/2013 8:15:20 AM PST by bbernard
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To: EXCH54FE

If them coms up her in God`s Country, Them revenooers are gonna get a lot of rocksalt just like they done got it in thar behinds 80 yearn ago.


3 posted on 01/26/2013 8:19:34 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: EXCH54FE

It was New York City where registration of semi-autos was followed by confiscation during the last half of the 20th century. Now I realize that the majority of New Yorkers are pretty stupid (as evidenced by their elected representatives) but maybe some have learned the lesson of history.


4 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:15 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: EXCH54FE
— just compare Chicago or D.C. to Alaska or Wyoming.

No, there is something else besides the willingness of the inhabitants to kill each other... something else, now what could it be...?

5 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:31 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: EXCH54FE

The fuse is lit in NY. Il Duce Cuomo either puts real teeth in his dictatorial law & says to law enforcement, “Obey my orders” or he loses his street cred.

Things could get ugly, & fast. He should pray that his stupid law gets ruled moot by the state supreme court.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 8:23:00 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: EXCH54FE

Does your neighbor have a gun you think is illegal? Report it to DHS at 1-800-YOU-FINK, and you will be eligible for a 3 month extension in your unemployment insurance, or additional allotments for your EBT card!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Entirely fictional.
But not for long.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 8:24:13 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Why are we calling it civil disobedience.”disobedience” implies that gun owners are doing something wrong.
What is happening is gun owners are refusing to comply with an illegal law.That is not “disobedience”, but is how the rule of law is supposed to work.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 8:28:17 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: elcid1970

Do the surrounding states come to the aid of our brothers and sisters in arms? I live in Pennsylvania, but I’m just sayin’.


10 posted on 01/26/2013 8:29:08 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: bbernard
If millions of friggin illegal aliens can decide to ignore the law and flaunt it in our faces while demanding that I give them food from my table, why not blow off this unconstitutional cr@p?
11 posted on 01/26/2013 8:29:08 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: EXCH54FE

The government is preparing for the next civil war. But it will not be the north against the south. It will be the people against the government, so calling it the next civil war is a misnomer. It will be the next American Revolution.


12 posted on 01/26/2013 8:35:13 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: EXCH54FE

The Second Amendment was NEVER about what type of arms citizens might own or about what the technological developments of the future might bring. It was not about hunting. It was not about home defense. It was not about target shooting. It was about the ability of citizens to oppose and resist the oppression of a tyrannical government.

Here is another thought. Does anyone think we would have and easier time with slavery in the US if the slaves were able to arm themselves?


13 posted on 01/26/2013 8:36:58 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: bunkerhill7
rocksalt

Well they won't have rocksalt for you, but real lead, so anyone thinks that confrontations are going to be anything other than death to one side or the other had better wake up.

Think for a minute. The police come for your guns. They'll be armed with rounds designed to inflict the maximum damage and if you manage to hit one with 'rocksalt' before they kill you their vests will stop any damage. Now if you've set up some homemade claymores with tungsten shot to cover the approaches to your house, at least you'll be able to take a few with you before you are killed resisting arrest (Which WILL happen even if you surrender after killing any of the JBTs). Best NOT to be home when they come for you and your guns - like having an accomodation address and actually living somewhere else.

14 posted on 01/26/2013 8:36:58 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: EXCH54FE
Rebelling against the communist will begin with this NY gun issue. We must defy the communists destruction of America. We must be prepared for the riots that will happen when the food stamp and general welfare is reduced or cut. America, it will happen and there is no stopping it. It has gone too far.
15 posted on 01/26/2013 8:37:05 AM PST by Logical me
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To: djf
Does your neighbor have a gun you think is illegal?

the questioning will begin in grade schools and other places where your children are in the care of the gov unionists

lists will be made, some research will be done followed by letters from DHS asking if "you've forgotten to register your guns" and reminding you that a lie is a felony.

narrowed list followed by visits from heavily armed teams

16 posted on 01/26/2013 8:37:05 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: EXCH54FE

Stock up New York, the battle is nigh! Prepare to refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Prepare yourselves, and accept nothing less than victory.


17 posted on 01/26/2013 8:40:26 AM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: Real Cynic No More

After watching Hannity of Fox last night, the revolution is long overdue starting in Washington DC and expanding to State and then City levels. The biggest majority of politicians are in it for the green money in their back pocket.


18 posted on 01/26/2013 8:41:10 AM PST by YukonGreen
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To: philetus
What is happening is gun owners are refusing to comply with an illegal law.That is not “disobedience”, but is how the rule of law is supposed to work.

Correct! We are practicing fealty to the Constitution AND the Declaration of Independence. The former is the Law of the Land. The latter is the lawfully passed and ratified reset button should the powers that be forget to abide by the former.

19 posted on 01/26/2013 8:43:18 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: djf
Does your neighbor have a gun you think is illegal? Report it to DHS at 1-800-YOU-FINK, and you will be eligible for a 3 month extension in your unemployment insurance, or additional allotments for your EBT card!!

http://maxkeiser.com/2013/01/06/newark-nj-mayor-1000-to-turn-in-your-gun-owning-neighbors-we-will-give-you-cash/

20 posted on 01/26/2013 8:45:21 AM PST by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: bbernard
I don't blame them one bit. I applaud them with all my heart.

A little while before my momma died in 2010, we got to talking about what Obama and his evil crew were up to. She and I eventually got around to what they are planning to do with guns. She was very aware I had a lot of guns and she asked what I'd do if they got to ‘registration’ and all the other stuff that would ensue. I told her I'd ignore it - they'd have to come take them (at least the ones that they could find.)

She told me “I don't blame you.” An 86 YO law abiding, God-fearing, tithing woman that never once smoked or drank or broke a law that she knew of. Always paid her taxes, to the point of going overboard (I think). She was called home in April that year.

21 posted on 01/26/2013 8:49:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: EXCH54FE

We could learn from liberals. There is strength in solidarity as long as everyone holds together. Conservatives on the other hand are like cats and it’s every man for himself. :-) I hope they hold together and refuse to comply


22 posted on 01/26/2013 8:49:56 AM PST by plain talk
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To: from occupied ga

we dun got crossfire vectorinos here and evreyfarmer has at least 6 auto`s, even BAR`s; we got local cops on our side too and nat guard is with us- we even got local NAT GUARD AIRBOYS TOO_ and we got armed militia here at all checkpoints and to surroiund the airport- we dun practised this here manooveer in 2008 after obum got nomination—NG got mortars, MG`s n big boomers here at the armory -we are armed -we iz ready-Com`on you SOB`s


23 posted on 01/26/2013 8:50:23 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Not following an unconstitutional law is, in itself, constitutional. The “I was just following orders” excuse didn't work out too well for the Nazi types who tried it in Nuremberg.
24 posted on 01/26/2013 8:51:11 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: philetus

“Disobedience” does not imply wrong-doing. It simply means not obeying an order.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 8:51:46 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: EXCH54FE

It’s about time that the rights of the citizens overpower the bloat of a fetid government. More than once the people of NY have chosen to defy the King and send him and his army away. I suspect that beyond the befouled bowels of the inner city lies a huge number of freedom loving people who have been denied their rights by a falsely empowered tyrant who’s only real achievement is the control of a boot licking press.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 8:53:09 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Truth2012

You are not trying to say that the killings did not occur, are you?

While I believe that there are differences between hoaxes and ‘conspiracies,’ I certainly do not believe these killings never happened and are a hoax.

I am patently for maintaining the status of the second amendment and as few as possible abridgements to it as we can keep from happening, however, I’m not ready to ‘kook it out.’


27 posted on 01/26/2013 8:53:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: NativeSon

If they come to take your guns you’ve lost. The odds of you successfully winning that battle are about a million to one. The conflict must be asymmtric to allow the citizens any chance of winning. Can you think like Timothy McVeigh? Because that is what it’s going to take. Think truck bombs, guided model aircraft with homebrew binary VX, vacant houses mined with a ton or so of anfo, and then a tip about an arsenal called in, exections of anti-gun politicians and their families, mines in favorite police speed trap locations, etc. Resistance must be without rules if it is to be successful, because all the advantages are on their side


28 posted on 01/26/2013 8:59:25 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: EXCH54FE

The only people that I am in favor of disarming are the private and government security forces that surround and protect these communists from the people who they are supposed to serve. Take away the SS, Bloomberg’s security, Cuomo’s security, and let’s see how they feel about gun control.


29 posted on 01/26/2013 9:00:29 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: EXCH54FE
With the amount of resistance already expressing itself in New York, analysts say attempting similar schemes at the federal level would be literally insane. Still, that does not mean it will not be attempted.

Which pretty much guarantees that Obama will try to cram it down America's throat .... much the same as Obamacare.

30 posted on 01/26/2013 9:05:06 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: jiggyboy

There’s a difference between disobeying and ignoring.


31 posted on 01/26/2013 9:05:14 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: philetus

“Why are we calling it civil disobedience.”disobedience” implies that gun owners are doing something wrong.”

You’re right it’s “governamental criminality”


32 posted on 01/26/2013 9:12:18 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones)
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To: from occupied ga
Leaderless resistance. This is what they are truly afraid of.
33 posted on 01/26/2013 9:13:56 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: from occupied ga

Boy, are you right about that! The town AND county in NY where I was born and raised were always Republican. This past election, both the town and county went for Obama. I was shocked and appalled!


34 posted on 01/26/2013 9:14:33 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: EXCH54FE

Tim McVeigh X 150,000,000


35 posted on 01/26/2013 9:14:46 AM PST by Lexington Green (Keeping it real is keeping you down, fool.)
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To: Lexington Green
McVeigh

Agreed-see post #28

36 posted on 01/26/2013 9:20:28 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: EXCH54FE

Bttt


37 posted on 01/26/2013 9:20:28 AM PST by bayliving (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Bttt


38 posted on 01/26/2013 9:21:44 AM PST by bayliving (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!)
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To: EXCH54FE

New York State is not allowed by the U.S. Constitution to make war on its citizens.
SEc 10. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops,
or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,
or with a foreign Power, OR ENGAGE IN WAR,
unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay


39 posted on 01/26/2013 9:24:28 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: EXCH54FE

This bill was a huge mistake.

Huge


40 posted on 01/26/2013 9:25:41 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: EXCH54FE

I’d like to see them make the Latin Kings, Lost Boys, Aryan Brotherhood, Crips, La Gran Familia, Somali Mafia, Zulu, etc. register their guns.


41 posted on 01/26/2013 9:26:05 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: duffee

NYers need to start posting the list of those that voted for this crap including home address
in every public square in clouding all relative’s information.


42 posted on 01/26/2013 9:31:46 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: stevio; EXCH54FE; elcid1970

“Do the surrounding states come to the aid of our brothers and sisters...”

I hope so. Big problem is secure coms.


43 posted on 01/26/2013 9:33:39 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: MomofMarine

The siren call of “free shyt” is hypnotizing and apparently irresistible to some (many?). In the first term I used to say, “We’ll see how they vote when the bills come due”. Since Øbongo was so successful at federal check-kiting the tab has yet to be presented (but it’s growing all the while).

When the “Final Payment” notice comes it will be brutal.


44 posted on 01/26/2013 9:33:46 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: patriotsblood

“Take away the SS, Bloomberg’s security, Cuomo’s security, and let’s see how they feel about gun control.”

In the fantasy you describe, if these folks were to agree to it, passionate zealots for gun control would shoot them.


45 posted on 01/26/2013 9:44:30 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: isthisnickcool

Spot on. In 1789 the deadliest military firearms were found incivilian hands from Maine to the NatchezTrace. In the 1860s and 1870s wagon trains and cattle drovers had more firepower than cavalry troops. Even artillery found its legal way into civilian hands on keel boats, in trading posts and private forts, and every Yankee and Baltimore trade on the seas.


46 posted on 01/26/2013 9:56:13 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: EXCH54FE

Watch This

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fGaDAThOHhA


47 posted on 01/26/2013 10:01:37 AM PST by reefdiver
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To: isthisnickcool
Exactly. The Bill of Rights does not say what an individual may or may not do. It specifically says what the government may not do. In order for people to remain free the government may not interfere with free speech, religion, firearms, etc. etc.

Whether or not I "need" any particular firearm or not is entirely beside the point. What I absolutely need in order to remain free is the freedom to own (or not) a firearm if I choose. The moment we give that (or any other freedoms) up we have tyranny. Not tyranny sometime in the future if/when the government does something and we cannot protect ourselves. No, we have tyranny right here, right now if and when we surrender our freedoms.

Molon Labe

48 posted on 01/26/2013 10:03:41 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: EXCH54FE

I would guess Cuomo has set off a migration to red states


49 posted on 01/26/2013 10:24:56 AM PST by y6162
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To: y6162

To bad really. The libs escape the shyt hole they created and then attempt to turn the state they move to in to the same shyt hole.


50 posted on 01/26/2013 10:57:22 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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