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1 posted on 01/25/2013 6:57:55 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Can you imagine the effect a film of 10,000 women going ashore at OMAHA BEACH or IOW JIMA would go over back home in WWII?

Watching young women blown to pieces would cause a major uproar.

The Military should not be used for social engineering.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 7:13:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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One of the scariest things about the women that want to do man things, is that they aren’t embarrassed about, or even aware of their shortcomings.

I have read many articles and some books by these women, and they can be a total flop compared to the men, but as long as they do well against the female standard, they swell up with pride and vindication at their equality.

They say things like “ I got the best total score in my class”, without ever mentioning that their “scoring” was different from the real scoring, it is like a bad movie about the totally self-absorbed, unaware boss’s son, or rich kid, who thinks that he came straight from the parking lot into the board room, because of his own 21 year old’s talents and specialness.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 7:15:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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Richardson, who entered the military with the intent to become a nurse, said she would not choose to go to the frontlines
——————————————————————————————Gee when I went in the military we didn’t get a chance to choose.

Does this mean women want a chance to choose?
Is that what you call equality?

When you join the military honey, you go where they send you.

Now women want the right to be cannon fodder if they choose. If they don’t choose some man gets to die in their place. That’s equality?

If women are to be allowed into combat, lets stop the volunteer BS .


4 posted on 01/25/2013 7:18:18 PM PST by Venturer
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These idiot women will lose their taste for combat once they see what a 7.62 bullet does to human flesh.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 7:27:42 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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“This greater diversity translates directly into mission success"

Prove it.

This "diversity makes us strong" crap is a shibboleth.

7 posted on 01/25/2013 7:33:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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This broad says it would “have been nice to have the opportunity” to go into combat. And opportunity? I guess that means a “choice”. If women are to be “allowed” to serve in combat there should be no choice. They should be assigned just like the men are assigned.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 8:19:18 PM PST by Terry Mross
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Anyone who actually WANTS to go into military combat shouldn’t. They do not understand it and would be doing it for the wrong reasons. Just as anybody who actually WANTS to be President of the United States shouldn’t.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 8:33:16 PM PST by Bravada (Wherever I Stand, I Stand With Israel!)
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Panetta confirmed that women would be required to pass the same physical requirements as men to serve on the frontlines, but there may be some review of these requirements in the months to come to ensure that they are gender-neutral.

Gender neutral tests? OK - so both men and women must be able to pick up a 10 pound bag of sugar... and toss it 3 feet? Everyone passes - we all lose.

14 posted on 01/25/2013 9:14:34 PM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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“...since many females in her branch had already been serving in combat-like situations.”

“combat-like?”

Is that where they can get like, dead?


15 posted on 01/25/2013 9:16:35 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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At what point should a pregnant infantrywoman’s fetus receive combat pay?


18 posted on 01/25/2013 10:09:27 PM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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The decision may increase the number of women enlisting in the military, Balliet said.

“I think (an increase) is a very good possibility,” she said. “And that’s not a bad thing.”

I think it will have exactly the OPPOSITE effect. I believe FEWER women will go into the military, if they know they could be sent to the 'front line'.

21 posted on 01/25/2013 10:42:31 PM PST by SuziQ
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Though Balliet is not sure whether she would have chosen to be on the frontlines when she entered the service 25 years ago...

She is a lieutenant colonel in the Nationl Guard. Don't they have an "up or out" rule in the Guard. I suppose she could have come up through the ranks.

24 posted on 01/25/2013 11:34:26 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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For the 'ladies' looking forward to front line combat:

My son was with the 101st in Iraq. Being an airborne unit, that meant he walked all the way from Kuwait to Baghdad. So goes the army... Anyway, he carried an M249 with a 100 round magazine (take that DiFi!). He also carried 500 extra rounds, an extra barrel, a Beretta pistol(should have been a Colt), a ruck sack some mules would balk at, and about 85 pounds of body armor. All of this in the the desert heat.... Honey, how would you like to do that on your period? They don't carry couches in the open air latrine for your cramps either.

25 posted on 01/26/2013 5:07:39 AM PST by tbpiper
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If you want to stop these pro women in combat lunes dead in their tracks ask them this hypothetical question:

You are a General of an Infantry division and your Commander lets you choose one of two enemy divisions to fight in an upcoming engagement. Intel confirms the first enemy division that you could choose to oppose in the upcoming battle is all male. Or you could instead choose to fight the second enemy division that was mixed faggot, women and men. So which enemy division would you choose to fight?

Answer Yes or No and explain your answer.

26 posted on 01/26/2013 5:12:43 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Note to Lt. Col. Nicole Balliet: It is difficult for me to understand anyone who has risen to the O-6 pay grade not to understand what REAL combat is like.

You really need to do some serious reading on the subject. I suggest Eugene Sledge's “With the Old Breed: Peleliu and Okinawa” or Robert Leckie’s “Helmet for My Pillow” or “Strong Men Armed.”

Colonel Balliet rhapsodizes that “it's about time” and “I'd like to have had the chance”. Are you absolutely insane, woman? Let's talk about the numbers.

Has it occurred to you that infantry units in ground combat lose people and those deaths are not “Hollywood” kinds of deaths? These deaths are as gruesome as you can imagine: people are vaporized; people with heads, arms, legs blown off; people eviscerated with their internal organs spread around. In Eugene Sledge's K Company, they went into action with 240 men and came out with 5 still walking upright. So, Colonel, what exactly happened to the other 235? Do you envy them that they got a chance to experience “front line combat”?

One of the dirty little secrets in the military that no one talks about is the female “option”. If Suzie Soldier, Airman, Sailor, or Marine gets an assignment she doesn't like or doesn't want to do, Suzie gets pregnant. Pregnancy gets her a free ticket out and back to a nice, safe rear area so she can have her child [and about a year's duty in this safe duty station as she raises her new born]. Meanwhile, the unit she abruptly left gets no replacement for her and those remaining have to do her job besides their own.

Now imagine Sledge's K Company with 50 Suzie Marines who don't want to invade Peleliu or Okinawa so they get pregnant to avoid combat? That leaves 190 males to shoulder the load of the original 240 BEFORE the shooting actually starts. That's hardly fair, is it Colonel Balliet? You don't think females in infantry units would exercise the “option”, Colonel? The women already ARE exercising the “option” and the women aren't in combat arms, Colonel.

There's also another thing I notice about people like Colonel Balliet — it is officers who think front line combat is just wonderful because it gives them a resume enhancement for advanced promotion! I don't see a lot of senior and junior enlisted people clamoring for ground combat slots. Let me be blunt, Colonel Balliet. I have been on the sharp end of the spear and it is not a pretty place to be when the real crap hits the fan. This is not a “stepping stone” to an advanced promotion; this is a good way to get maimed, permanently disabled, or killed. You cannot get promoted if you're dead Colonel Balliet [or maimed or permanently disabled].

Let's be very frank, Colonel Balliet: infantry ground combat is an equal opportunity killer and respects neither gender nor rank. Anyone who looks on it as a fast track to advanced promotion is a bloody fool [or worse].

28 posted on 01/26/2013 5:58:49 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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Just another way to weaken OUR military to appease the chi-coms!!!!


30 posted on 01/26/2013 6:55:49 AM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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...Lt. Col. Nicole Balliet’s first reaction was, “Well, it’s about time!”

Hell, I'm 60 years old and a retired AF weenie. I still bet, sight unseen, that I can clean her clock in hand-to-hand and carry more than she can over a 5 mile hike.

32 posted on 01/26/2013 7:12:50 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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A man and a woman in the same foxhole? By all means; why should gays have all the fun?


33 posted on 01/26/2013 7:20:00 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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