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To: Kaslin

As I have posted many times, military style rifles are just a smokescreen. Their ultimate goal is the total abolition of the RIGHT to own firearms of any type.

It has always been about handguns. Assault rifles are just a decoy to try and get their anti-gun foot in the door.

Once they get a ban on AWs then they will use the same reasons to go after handguns.

John Kennedy killed with a 5 shot bolt action rifle.

Medgar Evers, shot with a 5 shot 1917 bolt action Enfield rifle.

Martin Luther King, shot with a 4 shot Remington 760 pump action Gamemaster rifle.

Bobby Kennedy with a .22 Iver Johnson Cadet revolver.

George Wallace wounded with a 5 shot Charter Arms .38spl revolver.

Howard Johnsons shooter killed nine, wounded thirteen with a 4 shot RUGER .44 mag Deerslayer rifle.

Gerald Ford attacked with a 7 shot 1911 semi auto.

Edmond OK post office with two National Guard 7 shot 1911 pistols.

Ronald Reagan and Jim Brady with an RG-14 .22 revolver.

What do they all have in common? NONE over 7 rounds, yet after each one came a cry of panic to ban all of them.

And if you still have doubts consider this by Nelson P Shields, founder of Handgun control Inc.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again.

Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered.

And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

For those who may still doubt, back in the 1980s HCI decided to go after semi-auto military style rifles along with handguns.


5 posted on 01/25/2013 1:04:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

So we have this Idiot who’s ancestors got their asses kicked back across the ocean Twice for that point of view,
back in this country utilizing everyones constitutionally protected free speech to attack another freedom we have.

I say this based on the blood of my Ancestors who fought and kicked their asses for those rights.

Piers Morgan deserves public stoning and then boxed up and sent home. Go back to your filth infested limey country and live in the “Utopia” your mindset created.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 1:22:08 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

A little history of banned items is useful at this point:

During the Columbine massacre, in which 15 people were murdered and 21 injured, a total of four firearms were involved. The murderers also employed four knives and 99 explosive devices.

Of the firearms, only one qualified under the 1984 federal law as a banned “assault rifle”. One firearm was a doubled barreled shotgun with a shortened barrel. It has long been a federal felony to saw down the barrel of a shotgun and it was also a felony to possess such an altered weapon.

Every single explosive device was a federal and state felony to assemble, possess and use, and to use in the commission of a crime.

If the memory of Columbine is ever brought up today, the failure of the law to stop the use of explosives in a school massacre is never mentioned. It is never mentioned because it is a fact that gets in the way of a Gollum-like fixation on the Precious, the banning certain types of firearms and then eventually all firearms.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 1:42:16 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s the Overton Window approach to political change:

http://www.mackinac.org/12887#overton_window_container

The gun grabbers are trying to shift the window in their direction.


34 posted on 01/25/2013 2:34:33 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Tremendous, most excellent post.

Yes: this whole “assault weapon” ban is all about incrementalism to get rid of handguns and rifles, and to make it possible for the Feds to confiscate all our weapons... the precursor to our total slavery to the government.


45 posted on 01/25/2013 3:53:32 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The gun grabbers will use a slippery slope argument.

Step 1: Ban ‘assault weapons’.

Step 2: Wait for mass killing with a pistol (like Jared Loughner).

Step 3: “Assault rifles only account for a small percentage of killings every year. And, we’ve banned them. Why wouldn’t we ban handguns, since they kill so many more people. We have to do it - for the children”.


47 posted on 01/25/2013 3:57:08 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered.

And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

So Shields basically thought he could achieve "total control of handguns" in the United States by about 1986.

27 years past his future target date, there are more handguns than ever (although I'm sure the percentage of Americans who own them has probably decreased), and the Supreme Court has ruled that they can't be taken away.

84 posted on 01/26/2013 6:30:44 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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