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1 posted on 01/24/2013 10:06:13 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Anyone who knows combat as I do, knows this is a very bad idea.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 10:10:34 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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My reaction is that the female must be able to meet the same qualifications imposed on the male. Thereafter, if she is in a frontline role and gets pregnant, both the father and her are discharged.


3 posted on 01/24/2013 10:12:17 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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Elaine Donnelly: Women in Combat Order “Dangerous Social Experiment”

Gee, ya THINK, Elaine!?? You could try to impose worse ideas on the military, but your feminist meddling where it doesn't belong has lead to this.

Look at the numbers of men who have been in combat that now suffer from PTSD. Why would ANY sane person believe that this is a good idea for women!!!?????

5 posted on 01/24/2013 10:30:20 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Olog-hai

In many if not most billets, gays and women can serve effectively although they are going to be challenged and degraded by their ability to cope with the effects of pregnancy and homophobia and fitness.

Remember ladies, all of our shooting enemies are muslim men. For them is haram (forbidden) to look or talk to women, any women, even those in uniform or demonstrating any authority.

Factor that into the combat walking patrol and liaison with village elders that will greatly help in keeping your troops alive.

Special Ops is a highly testosterone-driven boys club.

Ladies, I been there, don’t go there.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 10:39:33 AM PST by gandalftb
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Why should women get a choice of meeting the men’s standards or not?

No man in the US armed services has the option of meeting the lower women’s physical standards, even if he’s a nurse or accountant.

Neither should the woman have the choice. If they want the “option” of front-line combat positions, then it should be a uniform standard for all servicemembers.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 10:44:11 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Women better be angry at this(feminist included.)

Aside from the oblivious military ramifications, think of the social effects.

1). The hardening attitude of men towards women. If our men sees enlisted women as just another “soldier” and not an more vulnerable member of society. PTSD is already an known effect on our troops, must we instill callous attitude towards women, most of whom do not share the same desire to "hump" large backbacks across hostile terrain while getting shot at

2). Women must be included in the Draft.(14th Amendment) Hey it's only fair. And most important, the line between combatants and civilians will be completely erased, no longer just occasionally blurred.

Women will necessarily seen as an untapped source of manpower(no pun intended) and thus “war material” to be destroyed by our enemies.

All just to advance the goals of a few feminists

10 posted on 01/24/2013 11:16:20 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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An emotional issue for sure. However in WW2 the Russians had women fighter pilots, tank drivers and snipers.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 12:24:25 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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Two anecdotal examples of how the military can never, ever keep the same standards between men and women, because of PC pressures.

Jumpmaster - one of the duties of a Jumpmaster is a pre-jump inspection. He checks the parachute, static line, helmet, etc....and the final check: he runs his hands along the harness and follows the straps under the crotch. He’s checking to make sure they aren’t improperly routed around your testicles. Once I had a female jumpmaster. She, of course, did not do this. This was 20 years ago - the military failed to hold her to the same standard, and put us all at risk (a poorly routed strap is more than ha-ha it hurts stuff...it could be serious trauma).

Pull-ups: At Airborne school, you learn how to steer an older style parachute (T10C). It requires quite a bit of upper body strength. In order to be prepared for the real thing, we were required to do 10 pullups before entering the mess hall. So, if you were to go to the Airborne School at Ft Benning, you would notice a few pull up bars in front of every mess hall. In adddition to that, you will see one bar around 3 feet off the ground. What’s it for? Well most women cannot do 10 pull ups - so they lie on their backs and do a sort of simulated pullup on this lower bar. Now steering is important in a parachute...and its dangerous if some of your fellow jumpers can’t steer. They could run into you, or they could end up in a situation where they are essentially standing on your parachute, which is extremely dangerous. But there it was - a lower standard, and obviously most of the women could not steer.

I have absolutely no reason to believe women will be held to a higher standard in these new positions.


13 posted on 01/24/2013 12:27:36 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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I dunno, a few platoons of PMS deranged feminazi butchs could be a pretty lethal force............. /s


17 posted on 01/24/2013 12:50:24 PM PST by OB1kNOb (On November 6, 2012 liberty was given the death penalty in America.)
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60 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:41 AM PST by narses
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The Russians and the Israelis once allowed women in front-line combat. Neither of them do today. It would be edifying if someone in congress had someone from either of these two countries explain why this is so.


61 posted on 01/27/2013 10:14:16 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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