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1 posted on 01/21/2013 2:56:30 PM PST by neverdem
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Time to switch to belt fed weapons....


66 posted on 01/21/2013 4:22:17 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: neverdem

I normally support law enforcement and do not suffer from that rabid hate of them so often seen here. When my daughter calls 911, chances are those guys are showing up as fast as they can to help her. Car wreck, stalker, whatever.

But, something todays cops miss is that for most of America’s history the cops have carried much less firepower than the citizenry. This concept that the cops must always be able to carry overwhelming firepower when compared to us is a new thing.

And THAT mentality has changed how they deal with us. Before, they were usually bona fide representatives and protectors of the community. This is why they did not demand an overwhelming firepower, or expect a monopoly of firepower.
The current way of thinking is a subtle way of telling them they are a sort of occupation force, and that they never need to worry about pleasing the community.

So yes, the cops should have to revert to whatever magazines the civilians are forced to use.


70 posted on 01/21/2013 4:29:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: neverdem

Why do coops “need” more than 7 rounds? We have already heard for Rep Nadler that NO ONE “needs” more 2 or 4 round in self defense.


74 posted on 01/21/2013 4:34:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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Since when doesn’t “law-abiding retired cops” = “private citizen”?

I don’t recall retired military being given special preferences concerning what they can or can’t carry, yet their oaths remain intact and in effect, too.


76 posted on 01/21/2013 4:35:17 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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Cops are complaining about the lack of a double standard

Cue the "sad trombone" soundtrack.

78 posted on 01/21/2013 4:38:12 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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There is no requirement to show need to exercise your 2A rights.


79 posted on 01/21/2013 4:38:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights.)
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I remember years ago when the gun grabbers were pushing for the mandatory development and implementation of "smart gun" technology. The argument was based heavily on saving the lives of police officers who were killed by their own firearms when they lost them in a struggle with a criminal.
It was interesting that every piece of legislation that required guns to be outfitted with this questionable technology specifically excluded the police from having to use it.
80 posted on 01/21/2013 4:42:58 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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Cops can have magazines. They just can’t take them out of the station house and in the station house they have to be kept 50 yards away from any gun it fits in.


81 posted on 01/21/2013 4:49:35 PM PST by DManA
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Criminals need not take off their shoes now.


82 posted on 01/21/2013 4:51:51 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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I thought someone had posted on here about the excuse being that cops are more often in dangerous situations. At least when it comes to the chances of being murdered, my quick research doesn't bear that out (assuming I didn't miss something that someone will hopefully point out).

In 2009 of a population of approximately 700,000 LEO's in the US there were 38 felonious murders, or 0.0054%. In 2009 with a population of 307,006,550, there were 15,399 murders with a 0.0050% chance of being murdered (when you minus out the LEO numbers). That is a four ten-thousandths of a percent more chance to be murdered than the rest of the citizens in the U.S. When you figure every one of those LEO's were armed, trained and have available backup, the citizens are less protected and even more so now if the gun grabbers get their way.

83 posted on 01/21/2013 4:51:59 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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“Gun reform must prevent criminals and the deranged from getting illegal weapons—not restrict law-abiding retired cops ...”

What about law abiding citizens? I guess we don’t count. Cops are more likely to be wife beaters, commit suicide, suffer from depression and PTSD than average citizens.


84 posted on 01/21/2013 4:56:14 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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Another case proving unions are bands of useful idiots. If the ban of anything over 7 shots remains, then it should not have exceptions - it’s either a good idea or a bad one. Period.


90 posted on 01/21/2013 5:15:43 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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"We are still working out some details of the law, and the exemption will be included."

I always believed the time for reasoned debate and thoughtful consideration was before passing legislation. Unbelievable. What country is this, again?

Yeah, I know, we have to pass it to find out what's in it. This makes me sick.

93 posted on 01/21/2013 5:28:18 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: neverdem

The cops don’t need them. There is absolutely no reason a cop needs any more armament than the average citizen. None at all.

Exemptions for LE in gun laws are Unconstitutional, immoral, and unjust.


98 posted on 01/21/2013 5:55:24 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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100 posted on 01/21/2013 6:00:02 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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what;s good for the goose is good for the gander. if the police want to make the case for high capacity mags, the same should apply to responsible law abiding citizens.
102 posted on 01/21/2013 6:19:09 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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I understand the importance of instituting a new policy on mandating the limits of bullets that a regular citizen can possess, but as a matter of fact the bad guys are not going to follow this law

His second point negates the first.

103 posted on 01/21/2013 6:46:43 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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News to all law enforcement:

You ARE regular citizens.

There is NO “law enforcement community.”

Only in a police state, are you as elevated as you now presume to be above the citizens and entitled to powers your now imagine.


104 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:45 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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It’s time to start a Traitors to the Constitution list.

Anyone who votes for a bill like this one is on it. Any gov’t official, like these cops here, who complains about the lack of a double standard, goes on it.

It’s time to start shunning these people.


105 posted on 01/21/2013 7:27:14 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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I, on the other hand, am quite pleased. Cops should never be exempted from gun control laws.


112 posted on 01/22/2013 4:48:56 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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