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Man raises questions after carrying rifle into JC Penney
KSL.com ^ | January 17th, 2013 | y Paul Nelson and Andrew Wittenberg

Posted on 01/18/2013 8:28:55 AM PST by Daffynition

RIVERDALE — Pictures of a man carrying a rifle inside a big box store in Riverdale are raising a lot of eyebrows. The woman who took them tells KSL the man had no business bringing the gun where he did.

It was supposed to be just a regular trip to the JC Penney. Wednesday night, Cindy Yorgason was in line to return something when she saw a man with some pretty heavy fire power.

"He had the assault rifle over his shoulder," Yorgason said. "He had a handgun on the right side of his belt along with at least one additional clip."

She got out her phone after she said "a couple of other customers started to raise their eyes and look at this guy like, ‘Is he crazy?'"

She never felt threatened, but she believes a place like JC Penney is an inappropriate place to bring a weapon.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; guncontrol; jcpenney; retail; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/18/2013 8:28:58 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

painting his neighbor...

bad bad muzzle control

Lurking’


2 posted on 01/18/2013 8:31:26 AM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Daffynition

I doubt if there has EVER been a psycho killer who wore a yellow shirt.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 8:31:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Daffynition

It’s J.C. Penney’s property. If they prohibit guns, it’s their right, as unwise as some of us think that is.


4 posted on 01/18/2013 8:32:57 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Daffynition

Oh, look at that dangerous pistol grip and fore grip, and the scary banana magazine! And the dangerous black color!


5 posted on 01/18/2013 8:34:45 AM PST by expat2
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To: Daffynition
> "Man raises questions..."

So... what did he want to know?

6 posted on 01/18/2013 8:34:56 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Daffynition

He’s just provoking a reaction. Obvious an attention starved person looking for 15 minutes of fame.


7 posted on 01/18/2013 8:36:42 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Daffynition
THIS NEEDS TO BECOME THE NORM!

The Left constantly attempts to normalize deviant behavior such as homosexuality and child rape while demonizing lawful carrying of arms as "deviant."

This is the farthest thing from deviant, and this gentleman should be applauded for exercising his right!

Folks, if you can open carry in your state, double-check your laws before doing so, but openly carrying a rifle and a sidearm SHOULD BECOME THE NORM NOT THE EXCEPTION!

8 posted on 01/18/2013 8:36:51 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dayglored

He probably wanted to know if they would waive the late charge on his last statement. I am inclined to think that they did...


9 posted on 01/18/2013 8:37:31 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Daffynition

"She never felt threatened..."

Then what's the problem?
10 posted on 01/18/2013 8:37:42 AM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: BipolarBob

Airsoft?


11 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:00 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: who knows what evil?
> I am inclined to think that they did...

LOL!

12 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:34 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: expat2

Don’t forget the lethal collapsible stock!

And OMG, those optics! Those must be SNIPER OPTICS! 1,000,000 METER HEADSHOT!


13 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:38 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Daffynition

Good for the dude!
Yellow shirt, to me represents “Don’t tread on me”

I think people should get used to seeing guns everywhere.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:56 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Daffynition

>>”Is he crazy?”<<

Apparently not as crazy as Barack Obama.

From the available evidence, it appears that the JCP gun carrier has killed many, many fewer innocent people than Barack Obama.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 8:39:08 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Daffynition
What a flaming arsehole!

His khaki belt doesn't match his black trousers!

Thomebody call the Fashion Polithe!!!

16 posted on 01/18/2013 8:39:14 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TSgt

She probbly wnts it bnned.


17 posted on 01/18/2013 8:40:40 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Daffynition

“She never felt threatened, but she believes a place like JC Penney is an inappropriate place to bring a weapon.”

Good thing it was “tied down” on that guy’s back. Otherwise, it may have jumped off his back and chased her around the store. They’re just that mean and scary...


18 posted on 01/18/2013 8:41:42 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ArrogantBustard

To be fair, the proper matching protocol is socks to slacks and belt to shoes.

He’s STILL not in compliance, but I wanted to make sure that was clear.

His belt does sorta match the desert khaki magazine though.


19 posted on 01/18/2013 8:41:59 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: dayglored
> "Man raises questions..." So... what did he want to know?

Probably was asking how to find JCP's advertising agency.

(And thanks, dayglored, for saving me the trouble of challenging this particular FR headline.)
20 posted on 01/18/2013 8:43:39 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Daffynition

It’s JC Penny, so there were only few people there anyway.


21 posted on 01/18/2013 8:43:52 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: rarestia

I see people ‘bearing arms’ all the time at the grocery store in Red Hampshire...


22 posted on 01/18/2013 8:44:33 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: rarestia
AMEN, BROTHER!
23 posted on 01/18/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Daveinyork

JCP and the store would be empty. Who would feel threatened? No one is there.


24 posted on 01/18/2013 8:46:58 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: BipolarBob
Obvious an attention starved person looking for 15 minutes of fame.

Correction: "Obviously an attention-starved well-protected and confident person looking for 15 minutes of fame."
25 posted on 01/18/2013 8:47:19 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Daveinyork

I got a Marlin 60 tube-fed autoloader .22 and it’s actually STAMPED J. C. PENNEY on the barrel...

From the serial number, I think it’s circa 1967 or so.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 8:49:03 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
His khaki belt doesn't match his black trousers!

Really...in Penney's, of all places. He's trying to stir the pot from several directions at the same time.

27 posted on 01/18/2013 8:49:31 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Daffynition

You can bet no one got mugged while he was in the store.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 8:50:01 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: BipolarBob

Provoking a reaction? Yeah, the reaction should be, “Thank God there’s someone nearby who could react if another shooter went traipsing through this mall.”

Fact is, millions of people, myself included, carry firearms concealed from view for personal protection and would have absolutely no problem using them in defense of self or others. This gentleman decided to openly carry his arms, a right which no one can deny him, and he peaceably went about his business.

If open-carry ever passes in Florida, my wife and I intend to go about our lawful business, shopping, groceries, even getting mani/pedis with our rifles slung across our backs and pistols on our hips. We’re PROUD to be gun owners and to be law-abiding citizens.

This limp-wristed BS about “oh, this is a stranger, I don’t know his mental state and he’s got an assault weapon” has GOT TO STOP. There are millions of law enforcement officers around this country, and there’s no way every single one of them is mentally perfect. I personally know a handful who juice (roids) and have TERRIBLE anger management issues, but no one thinks twice about calling them for safety.

This needs to be normalized the same way that the left tries to normalize homosexuality and gay marriage. THIS IS OUR FIGHT TO WIN! The right to self-defense and arms is affirmed in the Second amendment, and we should NOT be afraid to exercise it EVER!


29 posted on 01/18/2013 8:52:15 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I personally feel very safe around armed citizens.

Exposure is exactly what is needed to desensitize the public. It worked for the homosexual mafia...


30 posted on 01/18/2013 8:52:55 AM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: Squantos; Gilbo_3
We know that discretion is the better part of valor. But part of me wonders what the net effect would be if we collectively slung our EBRs and holstered our pistols and simply went about our daily business open carrying where we are able to legally.

When only one person does this, it gives the impression that he's an "attention seeker", and while he might be, the perception would be entirely different if EVERYBODY who were able did what he's doing. THAT would send a definite message.

... just saying. :-)
31 posted on 01/18/2013 8:55:27 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: Daffynition
I used to think people who did this sort of thing were real bozo’s that hurt the cause. Now, with all the anti gun hystria from every direction, I think it’s time for a little push back. If the mere sight of my fire arm scares you or 'offends' you, too bad. Go home, lock your doors and close your blinds.

PS. don’t sweep people with your muzzxle. it’s bad form.

32 posted on 01/18/2013 8:55:55 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: rarestia

Exactly!

My county has the highest number of concealed carry permits for our area. You bet that guy standing next to you in the frozen food section is packing.

In fact, with all of the recent shootings I feel that I’m not protecting my family if I venture out with them unarmed.

We need more good guys with guns not less of them.


33 posted on 01/18/2013 8:56:01 AM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: TSgt

I don’t see the problem. It isn’t like he is shooting anyone. Isn’t there still a Bill of Rights? We should see more guns around being carried by normal, average citizens.


34 posted on 01/18/2013 9:00:30 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rarestia
Fabulouth!

But shouldn't the vertical foregrip match the horizontal handguard?

35 posted on 01/18/2013 9:01:19 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Daffynition

I find it more outragous that he’s even shopping at JC Penny.


36 posted on 01/18/2013 9:01:56 AM PST by lwd
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To: who knows what evil?

Although it’s good to make a statement. I feel this kind of publicity is not the correct manner to do so! The guy was just pushing the envelope, and I would think could have been arrested not on a weapons charge but an inciting panic charge!
Hell in most states now the old rifle in the rear pickup window does not fly, as weapon transportation has to be in a secure case and unloaded with ammo in separate location!
This is not proper and sends the wrong message from Second Amendment Supporters. Weapons have their place and JCP is not the place for this exhibition.


37 posted on 01/18/2013 9:01:56 AM PST by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: rarestia
This gentleman decided to openly carry his arms, a right which no one can deny him
He's on private property. That owner has the right to restrict who he does business with. You do concealed carry? Good for you. That's what this guy should have done. Carrying a rifle in a mall nowadays is inviting trouble.
38 posted on 01/18/2013 9:02:23 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Daffynition

39 posted on 01/18/2013 9:04:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: expat2

And the dangerous black color!


40 posted on 01/18/2013 9:05:31 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Resettozero

A confident person doesn’t need to go to this extreme to say “Look Look at ME!”. Concealed carry provides protection without making businesses put up MORE RESTRICIONS because of these not too well thought out actions.


41 posted on 01/18/2013 9:06:23 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Conserev1
"Weapons have their place and JCP is not the place for this exhibition."

Why not?

How do you know that no one will ever do a mass shooting in JCP? This dude openly carrying makes sure that it would not happen while he's there.

42 posted on 01/18/2013 9:09:46 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Daffynition

Not like if he opened fire would hit anybody......

JC Penney is DEAD since decided to ditch everything and
go teenbopper and Homosexual.....


43 posted on 01/18/2013 9:13:50 AM PST by njslim (St)
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To: Paladin2

It doesn’t appear that she has a mag inserted which brings up another question where does she have it.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 9:14:27 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: BipolarBob
Carrying a rifle in a mall nowadays is inviting trouble.

To which I say, "Bring it!"

You're knee-jerking this, Bob, and I doubt you're going to find many on this forum who are sympathetic to your beliefs.

Millions of men in American history openly-carried their rifles, shotguns, and pistols, and I bet you couldn't muster more than 100 incidents CAUSED by those carriers.

Carrying a rifle in a mall is a deterrent, IMO. No punk kid, no emo or goth kid, no ghetto fabulous thug is going to approach that man and attempt to take that rifle or even JOKINGLY come up behind him for any reason. It's that sort of normalization that I'm talking about.

Inner city kids and thugs go up to innocent, peaceful Americans in almost daily-documented cases "playing" the "knockout game" or otherwise accosting them. Do you HONESTLY think that they'd even contemplate something like that against a man openly-carrying a rifle and a pistol?

If you want to be limp-wristed in the exercise of your rights, go for it. Personally, I will proudly walk the mall, the grocery store, and through any establishment that allows me to carry my weapon. If they have signs posted stating that they're a gun-free establishment, I shop elsewhere. It's that easy.

45 posted on 01/18/2013 9:14:44 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Daffynition

I he were holding hands with another man would anyone have complained about the guns?


46 posted on 01/18/2013 9:16:07 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

If he were...


47 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:02 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Daffynition
"A Right not exercised is soon lost". Not sure who said it originally, but it seems to apply here.

I'd love to see tooled leather holsters and slings come back as fashion accessories. Not to mention gold inlay, scroll work engraving, etc...

Long gun. Pistol. Broadsword. Chainsaw... Individual Right, individual choice.

The more people realize that "man with weapon" is not automatically an "OMGWTFBBQ" situation, the more people will see it as normal.

This is a good thing.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Rappini

I think it’s a NY legal mag.


49 posted on 01/18/2013 9:17:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: dayglored

I raffed out roud...


50 posted on 01/18/2013 9:18:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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