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1 posted on 01/17/2013 5:33:53 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 01/17/2013 5:42:57 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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I think an elevator tax should be imposed. The more floors you go up the higher the tax! Can you imagine the out cry if another administration came after cities the way Obama is going after the rural states. We have the trump card. They still have to eat.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 5:43:34 AM PST by muskah
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based on self-reporting of miles driven.

"...???...3"

4 posted on 01/17/2013 5:51:09 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Sex tax is next.

A central socialist government device will be attached to your bedsprings. It will record and report to central whenever the springs move up and down repeatedly.

A bill will be sent to your residence for the number of tiems the above occurred times whatever Obama decides is fair.

He won’t pay anything unless Moochell is out of town and Rahm or Chris drops in.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 5:51:54 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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But sir I’m already paying a gas tax.

http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/~/media/Files/Statistics/Gasoline-Tax-Map.ashx


7 posted on 01/17/2013 5:57:50 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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Once again the oh so compassionate Democrats will tax the poor. When it comes to Dems. my motto is:
Don’t pay any attention to what they say, watch what they do.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 6:05:15 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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“Transportation” spending has turned into a huge scam. The administration and press claims the nations “infrastructure” is “crumbling” as if roads are filled with potholes and bridges are collapsing, but if you look around your community, you will see that most “transportation” projects have a lot of unnecessary extras.

In my area, there are now sidewalks everywhere where people do not walk. One goes along about a mile stretch of fields and I never see anyone walking on it.

We also have had about five fancy electronic billboads added to the highways that probably cost a couple million. Are they nice? Yes. But are they worth running up trillion dollar deficits to have? No.

The number of road signs has tripled too. Its as if they can’t make them fast enough for our DOT to put up. Its crazy how many mile markers, turn signs and other road signs they can put up.

This is all crap that is not necessary. Add on top of it the fact that the DOT workers get paid premium wages and you see why transportation spending is so high. Probably about a third to half of it really isn’t necessary.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 6:05:43 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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This type of tax is so stupid on so many levels, it's hard to believe anyone with one neuron still firing would consider it. The major issue is how to enforce and collect the tax. Does anyone really believe self reporting is the way to go? Second, because self reporting won't generate the expected income, another bureaucracy similar to the IRS on a smaller scale will be added. That means part of the funds generated have to be sucked off to pay the new federal employees.

A much simpler solution is to do what many states have done: make the tax a percent of the product price. Sure, revenues will swing up and down, but within a predictable margin. The main advantage is that the mechanism to collect the tax is already in place and the need for a new agency is killed before it starts. Congress, however, won't go for this plan because it doesn't increase the number of federal employees as much as a "measure mile" tax would.

14 posted on 01/17/2013 6:09:22 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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President Obama's push for fuel efficient cars

Apparently, there is someone giving credit to the fuhrer for the better gas mileage in vehicles. Never mind that, to develop better gas mileage cars takes a lot longer than the mere 4 years Bozo has been in office.

However, there is a big flaw in the part which states the reasons for people driving less.

My take, and I'm pretty sure that I'm not wrong, is that, with a lot more people not working because of jobs losses, and many taking 2 years vacations (via unemployment benefits), and millions more deciding to retire early because there are no jobs for the more mature workers, and because millions more have decided to just collect welfare and other benefits, and because it's gotten very expensive to get around, people have decided to drive less. It's not because they wanted to drive less or because people were getting better gas mileage; it's because it was forced on them and many wanted to save money in a horrible economy, and many decided that, living with government support was better than going to work. Gas mileage is part of it, but, when people decide to drive less and people don't need to drive as much, there will be a drop in the usage of gasoline. Simple as that.

All of that can easily go into hundreds of millions of fewer miles driven, perhaps billions, which means less need for gas, which means less taxes collected. But, no!, it had to be because of Obama's insistence on better gas mileage cars.
15 posted on 01/17/2013 6:09:50 AM PST by adorno (Y)
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Ummm, how about spending less? Living within a set budget? Crazy talk, I know.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 6:12:45 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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Isn’t a Northwestern State beta testing this? Washington, Oregon?

Cut back on electric usage, power co.s raise the rates. Cut back on water usage, they raise the rates.
IOW it’s a zero sum game. The companies/government want a certain income.
One way or the other they’ll get it.

If Zer0 wants to kill the economy, institute this tax.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 6:16:39 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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In 2012 the Fed standard mileage rate (for IRS deductions)was 55.5 cents per mile. This year it’s going up to 56.5.

What will that deduction be if they get away with this?

http://www.irs.gov/uac/2013-Standard-Mileage-Rates-Up-1-Cent-per-Mile-for-Business,-Medical-and-Moving


19 posted on 01/17/2013 6:17:37 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for links to the 2011 & 2012 FR Cookbooks- Enjoy)
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If this tax were put in place, it would be the final nail in the coffin that is my husband's business.
20 posted on 01/17/2013 6:18:46 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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*trust fund* pingy...

couldve sworn bambam said that anybody making less than 25K would never see a tax increase ???

his *opponents* are chompin at the bit for more slushies too...

23 posted on 01/17/2013 6:29:22 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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bureaucrats are likely to do something such as mandate devices in cars that will communicate with devices at gas pumps, tracking your every move.

I'd have any such device in my vehicle disabled right quick.

25 posted on 01/17/2013 6:34:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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31 posted on 01/17/2013 6:54:31 AM PST by tomkat ( .. shall not be infringed)
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They make cars more gas efficient, people buy the cars, then get taxed for driving them. Brilliant!


32 posted on 01/17/2013 6:55:25 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. hee hee)
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This is what we get with our KNEE-JERK reaction to increasing the gas tax...and not even letting it keep up with inflation.

I sure hope all you people are happy now - YOU’RE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE


34 posted on 01/17/2013 7:01:27 AM PST by BobL
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If this involves a GPS unit in the vehicle, it will DESTROY the privacy of travel. We can be assured by “strong laws” but government always gives itself a pass somehow. The only way to protect the privacy of travel is to never allow government the means to violate our privacy in the first place.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 7:05:50 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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This mileage tax will serve one purpose. Another opportunity for busybody bureaucrats to intrude in our everyday lives and more red tape. The current model of the gas tax based on per gallon is easy. Gas station sells a gallon, taxes are paid. And the driver just pays the tax at the pump and he is done. No paperwork, no reporting requirements, just drive.

One thing, this is done with truckers already with the fuel tax. And truckers are burdened with a lot of rules and regulations. The CDL which is intrusive enough where even a parking ticket can affect your driving privileges. And then there is the paperwork that has to be done for each state traveled through like for fuel taxes. Even if you fill up in State A with very little taxes but then drive mostly in State B, you will have to pay fuel taxes to State B for the portion driven there.

Kind of funny, back in the late 1980’s, I live in far Southern Indiana and Kentucky had very cheap gasoline taxes compared to Indiana and I would drive to the Kentucky side to fill up. It was like 20 cents difference at the time.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 7:29:06 AM PST by CORedneck
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