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ObamaMiles Tax Coming Soon
Townhall.com ^ | January 17, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 01/17/2013 5:33:48 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

forget “replace”. Think “in addition to”


41 posted on 01/17/2013 8:25:30 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: Kaslin
So, those of us who don’t use mass transit are paying for those that do in the form of gas taxes. That’s socialism for you.

And it's no wonder why we have no money to maintain our infrastructure. We already pay taxes 10+ ways that are supposed to go for infrastructure, but that money gets diverted, and nothing is left.

42 posted on 01/17/2013 8:28:37 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Kaslin
...federal gas tax hasn’t changed at all, sticking to a cool 18.4 cents per gallon... since 1993. ”While the gas tax was equal to 17 percent of the cost of a gallon of gas when it was set... in 1993, it is now only 5 percent” (Streetsblog).

This is a prime example of the old adage, "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."

43 posted on 01/17/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. —Chuck Norris)
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To: Kaslin

Whenever gas prices have risen, people have found ways to stop driving as much —carpooling, preplanning errand trips, walking more, etc. This will just spawn a black market of neighborhood jitney services and co-op grocery shopping.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. —Chuck Norris)
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To: Kaslin

Recipients of Obamaphones get free minutes. Will those same people get free Obamamiles?


45 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind
Will those same people get free Obamamiles?

They already do, with government provided free transportation on buses and subways.

But, why would those government dependents need transportation anyway? They don't have jobs to go to. Government will end up subsiding their transportation costs to the supermarkets and mall and to theaters, and to democratic party rallies, and (especially), to the voting booth.
46 posted on 01/17/2013 9:08:21 AM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: GreyFriar
That will just help with “Project 21” and force people to move from rural areas into the cities...

It's reminding me of the Highland Clearances, during which small farmers in Scotland were burned out of their villages, their swords confiscated, and forced either to Glasgow or Edinburgh to chattel work in factories and living in tenements, or to flee to Canada, America and Australia.

It was our gain; but now with Kelo-inspired and environmentalist land confiscation and the present admin's threatened gun confiscation, such possibilities are looming again.

Satan hates freedom.

47 posted on 01/17/2013 9:15:46 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. —Chuck Norris)
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To: GreyFriar
One of Bh0’s buddies has published a book about the need to force people back into central cities.

Urban planner types have been on the warpath against cars and suburbs and messy, people-enabling freedom since at least the 60's. That's when I picked up an architecture or urban planning magazine and was surprised by the undercurrent of hostility toward mobility and freedom and suburbs. They HATES it .....

Portland, Oregon, is the test case. The key is city-county government that allows the city crowd -- the "downtown boys" as Paul Newman called them in The Verdict (Newman, Jack Warden, Charlotte Rampling, James Mason) to forbid people building permits out in the suburbs. Portland is a totalitarian microcosm. Pen people up in the city, then milk them like cows. Shades (as long as I'm comparing things to movies) of The Matrix.

We shouldn't be surprised. All this stuff goes back to LeCorbusier and the Bauhaus School. They were socialist as hell. Le Corbusier himself was the guilty party who thought up the idea of "the projects", vast tenements for housing the Proletariat -- iirc his basic tenement squat was a rat-cage of about 500 or 600 square feet. San Francisco architects are cutting up apartment buildings right now into 200- and 400-sq. ft. squats that they propose to rent for $1500-2000/month. Ain't crony capitalism grand? Of course, a little bit of muscle has to be applied, to convince the victims to give up their suburban greenery for the more austere pleasures of High Totalitarian Socialism.

48 posted on 01/17/2013 9:21:39 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

He kills another business,taxi anyone.


49 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:59 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: theBuckwheat
They will call it a tax and according to SCOTUS anything called a tax is legal.
Freedom and Privacy be damned if it's a tax. Roberts knew exactly what he was doing.

What some do not realize is that the only way to change this current path is to
fire and replace every elite in Washington. Boehner holds the beltstrap in the house
and threatens every new Critter to do as he demands. This has gone way to far for to long.


Voting is the only way to stop the progression of facism/socialism in our country.

50 posted on 01/17/2013 9:23:39 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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To: Kaslin

As soon as they do this, we’ll start hearing complaints about increased traffic congestion on “shortest distance” commuter routes as people stop using less-congested, but longer driving distance secondary roads.


51 posted on 01/17/2013 9:31:32 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin

The keep talking about this, but I think practicality will keep it away. The vast majority of cars goes years without any interaction with the government, so they have no way to track. And if they want us to self report we’ll just lie (ask the states how many people admit to buying stuff from out of state so they can pay the sales tax), and since the government will never find out the car’s mileage the lie is undetectable. Cars with GPS might self report, but people will just go away from them.


52 posted on 01/17/2013 9:36:43 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: GreyFriar
You're talking about Agenda 21.
53 posted on 01/17/2013 9:38:56 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Mass transit cities such as San Francisco, are now trying to get permission from the city to allow ‘juveniles’ to ride the BART and other mass transit systems for FREE......Because ‘so many need to use mass transit to get to school.’ (most of the age appropriate juveniles this would affect are dropping out of school to sell drugs anyway).

Another little gem of information, which is NOT being reported, is that in California, school registration in K-12 is down over 10% in this school year.

Keep in mind that Gov Jerry Brown pushed a change in their income tax from 9.3% to 13.3% and also pushed an increase in sales taxes in the state ‘for the schools’.

Sin the schools were in session in September, and the election was in November, someone who is smarter that I needs to explain to me what level of outright lying was happening to push voters to approve both of these increases.

Giving ‘juveniles’ free mass transit is another way to have more trouble on an already plauged BART system. Those officers—who ONLY work for BART—are already overwhelmed with the punks tht cause trouble 24/7/365.

Charging a guy in Nebraska or Wyoming a miles tax to support mass transit in cities is just plain TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESWENTATION!!!!

I live rural. I have to go over 6 miles one way to the post office. I go over 24 miles one way to the grocery store. I go 20 miles one way to Wal Mart. Even at that, I only put 203 miles on my truck in 2012 and less than 3000 miles on my car. The amount of gas I use with my truck costs me more at the tax per gallon rate than the miles rate—but then I am ASSUMING that they won’t chronically raise the price per mile!!! Silly me!!!

This is another direct attack against the middle of the country—taxing them more miles for living rural-—while they grow our FOOD—and sending the money to the mass transit systems.

If the mass transit systems cannot charge the right rate to their own passengers—who are benefitting from the service—why should some rancher in Wyoming be charged for the benefits those mass transit riders enjoy???


54 posted on 01/17/2013 9:54:03 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: adorno

is that, with a lot more people not working because of jobs losses,”””

EXACTLY right.


55 posted on 01/17/2013 9:55:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: GreyFriar

Where in the city will they produce their food?

Soylent Green?


56 posted on 01/17/2013 10:01:47 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

You are right that cities have a lot of programs to let certain people ride for free. In my area, seniors and kids get to ride for free. A woman in my office was talking about it the other day — she turned 65 and now gets a free “one zone” weekly public transportation pass for the rest of her life. And “disabled” people can easily get free public transportation in my area too. All these things are paid for out of transportation budget that is portrayed as repairing “the nation’s crumbling infrastructure”. Its all a scam.


57 posted on 01/17/2013 10:02:38 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: liberalh8ter

Change the “if” to “when” and you will know how much time your husband’s business has. I would opine not long, but then again, that is what the parasites returned obama to the White House to do. TO Wit: Destroy the United States.


58 posted on 01/17/2013 10:03:16 AM PST by sport
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To: sport

I know. Instead, I’m trying to level the playing field by figuring out how to work the ‘green’ bs to our advantage.


59 posted on 01/17/2013 10:36:27 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: ridesthemiles

Why are you raising insignificant details? Remember it is the fulfillment of the Green Agenda that is the goal. Of course if more people starve to death, then there will be less population and thus less people to produce pollution.

(scarasm)


60 posted on 01/17/2013 11:04:17 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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