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To: sickoflibs; blam; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; BillyBoy
Sure, a major recession will cut revenues, sure stimulus in #1 will create a temporary increase in GDP and tax revenue, but beyond that...?. Beyond that they dont have a clue.

Or at least some of the Dems in charge do understand it, and pretend they don't. But since GWB and the GOP got to spend borrowed money, it would be politically "unfair" for the Dems to be responsible. They think, and they may be right, that a bare, but growing, majority of voters, through ignorance or selfishness, will punish any party that they think is going to spend less than the other.

I can blame the Dems and GOP, but look at whom the voters elect.

52 posted on 01/11/2013 1:50:01 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; blam; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; BillyBoy; ..
RE :”They think, and they may be right, that a bare, but growing, majority of voters, through ignorance or selfishness, will punish any party that they think is going to spend less than the other. “

Great intro to my next point: I came up with an answer to the question I been posting for days. It was :
Why doesn't the House GOP go after the debt ceiling rather than the actual spending in the CR?” as O and Dems dare them to try?

The answer is that the national debt polls high in voters worries, so Rs take a symbolic stand against debt by holding out the debt ceiling.

And if Rs take the stand on the CR instead they are going on the record on specific spending cuts which as you point out are unpopular and O crucifies them.

But that doesn't mean Rs will win this because as we have seen Dems will pull all sorts of tricks and scare the daylights out of voters.

So the endgame is : Rs cave again, and they know it, this helps explain what they are doing relative to my question.

When they cave on the debt limit it is after they took a symbolic stand against unpopular debt, but if they take a stand on CR spending cuts they are hated for cutting ‘my ...”, hated for caving, and hated for playing games. Lose-lose-lose

Lastly Rs want distant future entitlement cuts which is even more unpopular than cutting CR spending, so they play this game saying that that Obama has to come to the table and sign on or else... because Obama will skin them alive if they go it alone on that.

53 posted on 01/11/2013 8:37:43 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”I can blame the Dems and GOP, but look at whom the voters elect. “

They elect the Dems and the GOP ??

To me it looks like human nature.

Tell your kids (if you had 14 like that welfare case) that next Christmas you will put all the presents (say 3 times 14 of them) under the tree and that they are on the honor system to not get greedy and take more than their fair share, and to make the experiment work you plot with one of the kids to start grabbing presents as if he is out of control while the others watch.

By noon the Christmas tree will be down and all the presents will be destroyed after the big fight feeding frenzy.

Human nature DDD. "The presents are running out, so I better get mine fast".

57 posted on 01/11/2013 8:53:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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