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To: cuban leaf
And what about our founding fathers? Were they violating it?

The Founding Fathers, as well as the Confederate States, did not violate Romans 13 because they had Governments they followed (in both cases Colonial or State governments declared their Independence from the Royal or Federal Government).

We, on the other hand, are left with State Governments that will never stand up to whatever Federal abuses come their way, so we must 'grimace and bare it'. On the other hand, our Government is defined in the U.S. Constitution, and if said Government egregiously attacks this Constitution (e.g., voids the Second Amendment), the requirement to 'grimace and bare it' is not so clear.

10 posted on 01/09/2013 8:44:36 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid
Good points. The second amendment is VERY clear. Anyone in government office that violates it has violated his duty and no longer represents the government that is based on that document. He becomes a usurpor. His authority is nonexistent.
13 posted on 01/09/2013 9:00:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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