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Montanans will not obey any new federal gun restrictions
HungaryHorseNews ^ | Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:35 am | Gary Marbut

Posted on 01/08/2013 10:45:12 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

Couldn’t an enterprising Governor of a state just set up a procedure whereby any citizen of the state with no criminal record or mental health issues to be sworn in as a member of the state militia and order them to own an assault weapon as a condition of membership in good standing? Kind of a Switzerland approach.

That would seem to fall directly under the plain language of the 2nd Amendment.

I think the 2nd Amendment is broad enough as it is but the gun grabbers are going to try everything they can.

So lets combine the 2nd and 10th Amendment and make it a states right issue.


51 posted on 01/08/2013 1:15:50 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

I like it.


52 posted on 01/08/2013 1:18:40 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: Red Steel
I don't understand, or respect, Montanan's. They continue to elect a not-even-moderate Democrat Governor and Senators and then claim to be a conservative state. Please!

Whatever they get on a state level is what they deserve - communism.

53 posted on 01/08/2013 1:21:14 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: null and void
Ever wonder why we aren't mentioned in Revelation?

Isaiah 18

God's mercy... Every nation that fields an army to surround Jerusalem in the last days will be destroyed completely. With Obama wielding our military like it was "his boys in da hood" instead of following the Laws of the land, there is no doubt that if the UN declared war on Israel, Obama would comply.

Isaiah 18 states in the end, after being crushed and cut asunder, occupied and looted, America will bend its knee to Christ. Europe, Russia, China will no longer exist at that point. A remnant of the USA will.

54 posted on 01/08/2013 1:39:18 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Tim Mc Veigh never came into my thoughts on this.


55 posted on 01/08/2013 1:39:43 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: fwdude

The problem with rural areas is that many of them are “poor” below the poverty line. This meanse they get free government ebt handouts and the like.

The rugged individuals live next door to the rugged government handout form fillers.


56 posted on 01/08/2013 1:52:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Steel

Ping


57 posted on 01/08/2013 2:10:55 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

North Carolina already has.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2011/Bills/House/PDF/H250v3.pdf

“First in Flight, First to Fight”


58 posted on 01/08/2013 2:23:54 PM PST by Grubwart
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To: Red Steel

Hmph.. You Montanans will have to hurry up there if you are gonna beat us Texans to disobeying any new gun laws....


59 posted on 01/08/2013 2:50:13 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: null and void
The Aquarian Age Gospel of Jesus, the Christ of the Piscean Age

Personally, I'm going for door #4...

60 posted on 01/08/2013 4:02:06 PM PST by bigheadfred
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61 posted on 01/08/2013 4:05:25 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: Red Steel
I suspect that Montana and everyone else will fall in line and do as they are told. There's a lot of chest thumping coming from conservatives regarding new gun control laws, but in the end that is all it is. Conservatives are good at drawing a line in the sand, daring liberals to step over it, and the stepping back another five feet and drawing another line after the libs do step over the first. This has been going on for decades and I don't see any reason it will stop now.

What we're probably looking at is a ban on magazines which can carry more than 10 rounds and maybe even an all out assault weapons ban. Those who are threatening war over gun confiscation will not feel threatened enough by the new laws to doing anything and the water will continue to boil, but at least they can feel like patriots for coming on the internet and typing bravely.
62 posted on 01/08/2013 4:23:40 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

What could would it do? They don’t care about the 2nd or the 10th by themselves, why would they care about them combined?


63 posted on 01/08/2013 4:28:19 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Really? Where is the evidence that it has had any effect on the feds or even the police? All I can see is that his actions caused the collapse of the militia movement back in the 90s.


64 posted on 01/08/2013 4:32:48 PM PST by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: null and void
Ever wonder why we aren't mentioned in Revelation?

Because there was no United States in the first century when John received the Revelation.

Do you think it will take 200,000,000 million troops to invade the country called Israel (Rev 9:16)? Israel has 7.5 million people. Who do you suppose they're invading?

65 posted on 01/08/2013 4:50:35 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: ez
We are in the Book of Revelations, imho. We are Israel.

Exactly. It's spelled out plainly in Genesis 48 that the name Israel would go to Joseph's sons.

66 posted on 01/08/2013 5:01:01 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Sheriff Donnie Smith could be and should be removed from office. He holds an elective position and is responsible to the citizens. He took an oath to defend the constitution which he has now violated.

Listening to Sheriff Richard Mack talk the sheriff's responsibility and power might interest you. It is a lesson Donnie Smith must not have learned. The question posed at the 4:00 minute mark is one Mr. Smith would not truthfully answer and stay in office as it is apparent he has already shown his answer. Maybe you know some folks in Washington County who would benefit from this video and in turn stand up for our country.

NOTE: This video was made just weeks after the theater shootings in Aurora and well before the current media fueled hysteria following Sandy Hook.

67 posted on 01/08/2013 5:40:27 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Here we go.......The Lost Ten Tribes


68 posted on 01/08/2013 6:27:41 PM PST by SisterK (Freedom to Fascism. Aaron Russo)
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To: American in Israel

Thank you.

Isaiah 18 is dead on


69 posted on 01/08/2013 6:30:30 PM PST by SisterK (Freedom to Fascism. Aaron Russo)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Because there was no United States in the first century when John received the Revelation.

No kidding.

I wouldn't expect John to say "The United States of America", but I don't think hoping for an oblique reference is too much to ask.

He could have referred to the land of the Eagle, a land not yet known, a nation of immigrants, the new Babel, or any of dozens of phrases that wouldn't be out of place in a first century text, but would grow in meaning to unambiguously (or even, throw me a bone here, ambiguously) refer to us.

We ain't there.

Therefore in the end times, we are irrelevant.

Or The Book is wrong.

Rev 9:16 says 200,000,000, not 200,000,000 million.

Given God and Israel's track record I don't think I'd try it with less than a 25:1 advantage either...

70 posted on 01/08/2013 7:09:08 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: bigheadfred

Did you intend to link to the Urban Dictionary’s definition of wallow?


71 posted on 01/08/2013 7:11:25 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: DangerZone
DangerZone said: "This has been going on for decades and I don't see any reason it will stop now."

Some of us have waited "decades" for the Supreme Court to accept a Second Amendment case. The Heller decision in 2008 followed by the McDonald decision in 2010 have set the stage for a recovery from past infringements.

Here in Kalifornia the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals has dragged its feet and tied virtually all of our cases to one ten-year-old case which has evidently been settled with no actual determination of the meaning of the Second Amendment.

I would not characterize the behavior of U.S. citizens as cowardice, but rather we follow the teachings of our Founders. From the Declaration: "... accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. "

A federal so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" was tolerated, knowing that it would expire in ten years. Our patience was rewarded by seeing that it was not renewed.

A so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" was implemented in Kalifornia. It took three different laws to have any effect at all. Some relatively simple work-arounds allow one to keep one's arms. Some of the workarounds can be reversed in minutes to restore the full function of the original rifles.

Even the "normal-capacity magazine" law is practically unenforceable because the law does not forbid "possession", only manufacture, importation, or transfer.

I expect that our patience will be rewarded again when the Republican controlled House refuses to consider ANY further federal gun control.

If we are disappointed in that, then I would expect the Supreme Court to accept an emergency hearing and a declaration of unConstitutionality.

If the Supreme Court does not act, then I would expect many local sheriffs to defy the federal government by disallowing any federal action in their jurisdictions. We see some of that happening already with regard to the War on Some Drugs. (I don't expect that it will be my sheriff who takes my side.)

If the President, ... and the Congress, ... and the Supreme Court, ... and the local sheriff all fail us, then I will act.

I was kept in a state of anxiety throughout the debacle known as Watergate. I was eventually rewarded by seeing a corrupt President impeached and forced to resign and seeing five dozen of his minions convicted of felonies.

How the nation will handle the crimes of Obama, I don't know. But there is time, if we remain strong AND ARMED.

72 posted on 01/08/2013 9:12:53 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Truth is a Weapon

That would mean you have to register. No?


73 posted on 01/08/2013 11:01:27 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: wny
what’s never said is, that even without the 2nd amendment, no where does the Constitution allow the federal government to do anything about guns

True. The regulating of militias was understood to be by the states only.

74 posted on 01/08/2013 11:13:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DangerZone

i think you like most of our politicians are misreading the mood of most americans who are informed and educated enough to see what is happening in the us and what the future looks like without a confrontation...gun control is just the tipping point of many abuses just like 1776


75 posted on 01/08/2013 11:34:43 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: null and void
Ever wonder why we aren't mentioned in Revelation?

Ever wondered why Arkansas is mentioned in the book of Genesis?

(Noah looked out the ark and saw dry land.)

Hey, I know it's not real funny now but I heard it in Sunday school when I was a kid in the 50s, it was funny then.

76 posted on 01/09/2013 4:08:24 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Civil rights” leader and MSNB-Hee Haw host Al Sharpton - Larry Elder)
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To: Graybeard58

*groan*


77 posted on 01/09/2013 7:12:30 AM PST by null and void (Someday your prints will come...)
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To: Red Steel
For a state with a conservative reputation, MT surely votes Democrat for the U.S. Senate a great deal of the time.
78 posted on 01/09/2013 12:11:38 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: null and void
Did you intend to link to the Urban Dictionary’s definition of wallow?

Only *#4* (you cute fuzzy bunny). hahaha

that bothers me*

The point of the entire exercise is that it is so easy to MISREAD something when there are OTHER points of view on the same *subject* that are equally valid, IMO. But yet we all tend to wallow in our conditioned (pre)conceptions whether subliminal or of the soapbox variety.

Just listen to that little voice in your head.

Unless you have a pet tapeworm....

79 posted on 01/09/2013 5:11:22 PM PST by bigheadfred (hahaha (SHUT UP OBIWAN))
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To: Red Steel

BTTT!


80 posted on 01/09/2013 8:55:58 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: thackney; Red Steel
Try this link:

Texas has published a map of all Texas gun owners!

81 posted on 01/09/2013 11:27:40 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: null and void
Ever wonder why we aren't mentioned in Revelation?

Great point. I read a book quite awhile ago that suggested that God had blessed the USA with such great power so as to do just two things at a certain time or era:

#1. To help create and nurture the modern state of Israel so as to still be in existence when the end times and the tribulation period would get underway and the Lord could act himself in the eyes of the planet.

#2. To become a "free" superpower with advanced technology so as to spread the word of God across the planet.

Following the accomplishement of those two missions, there is not a great reason for us to exist as a superpower anymore and when we started turning our backs on God and promulgating such a state that mirrors Sodom & Gormorrah as we are now, well, judgment follows inevitably.

RAPTURE READY?

82 posted on 01/10/2013 9:49:28 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Criminal Number 18F; Squantos; wardaddy; appalachian_dweller; Godzilla; ..
That all depends on how many come to the party and how many are left afterwards.

I always felt that our very own Travis McGee was being frighteningly prophetic when he wrote his series Enemies Foreign & Domestic and we should refer to the first book in that series that mentioned what happened to some of the politicians who voted or actively lobbied for those laws.

Normal law abiding Americans behave very differently when the government turns on them and begins to act in the manner of a tyrant. Yes, they first rely on the ballot box and hopefully the jury box but when all else fails there is still the cartridge box and for verification just read the personal letters of the Founding Fathers.

83 posted on 01/10/2013 10:05:38 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: null and void
Perhaps “once” has a different definition in your dictionary.

Funny how a lot of that stuff slacked off after Oklahoma City.

Why don't you ask formerSeattle U.S. Attorney Tom Wales how he feels about it?

84 posted on 01/12/2013 1:11:28 PM PST by archy
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To: null and void
Perhaps “once” has a different definition in your dictionary.

Funny how a lot of that stuff slacked off after Oklahoma City.

Why don't you ask formerSeattle U.S. Attorney Tom Wales how he feels about it?

85 posted on 01/12/2013 1:11:56 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
Funny how a lot of that stuff slacked off after Oklahoma City.

Yup. Hilarious.

86 posted on 01/12/2013 9:12:08 PM PST by null and void (Confiscating guns enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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