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1 posted on 01/07/2013 11:45:47 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Part Two-http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2013/01/08/the-case-for-a-canadian-forces-gripen-fighter-aircraft-part-2/


2 posted on 01/07/2013 11:46:44 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Yeah, Canada, real stealthy... don't ya see!

If red X above go to http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/1/6a2623cd-8307-4091-8145-e298911d650f.Large.jpg

3 posted on 01/08/2013 12:10:44 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Why not get Block 60 F-16 E/F?


4 posted on 01/08/2013 12:11:35 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Author compares F-35A without external hard points to Gripen with external hard points.

In some cases Stealth is not important (say, after day 10 of a conflict) then a valid comparison would compare F-35 with external stores to Gripen. First days of a conflict Gripen would have to hunker down and wait in dispersed and camouflaged hides, and only after that, come up to fight with what was left. Lower cost of a Gripen fleet has to be weighed against the fraction lost in the first days of a conflict, and the damage that the inability of the Gripen fleet in high threat initial conflict.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 1:15:05 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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I think it would be easier for the RCAF to transition from Hornets to Super Hornets.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 1:26:58 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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Canada probably should go the Super Hornet like Australia did. Being a current Hornet user, the costs of going from classic Hornet to Super is minimal, the capability improvements are pretty good (especially if they get some Growlers in the mix), and the logistic tail hooks into the USN system.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 1:35:14 AM PST by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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The largest objection to the F-35A in Canada (aside from cost) is that it is a single engine aircraft, and patrolling large expanses of frozen tundra calls for a twin engine design for extra safety.

Neither the Gripen nor the F-16 Block 60 would solve that problem. Canada's best option would be the Super Hornet.

As for the article, it seems to be grasping at every negative straw. For example:

The F-35A also cannot carry the AGM-65 Maverick air-to-ground missile as it does not fit in the internal weapons bay. It can be equipped on one of the external hardpoints, but this greatly diminishes what little stealth advantage the F-35A enjoys.
So the AGM-65 has to be carried externally, reducing the F-35A's stealth, so instead let's buy an aircraft that has no stealth at any time with any load?
10 posted on 01/08/2013 2:52:14 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Good friend of mine recently bought a Saab automobile. Cost him almost $50K. Then Saab closed their auto business. He can’t trade it in for more than $20K, now. Meanwhile, cost of parts has skyrocketed.

Go ahead, Canada. Buy Saab.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 4:20:18 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Thanks for this posting.
What is eye opening about this review is the operational costs beyond the initial purchase these things run Kyle Meema presents early on in his comparison report. To me it’s a must read for anyone who wishes to comment about defence purchases and a “atta boy” sukoi for picking this up and posting in FR’s.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 4:37:14 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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And being a SAAB, the ignition key is mounted on the floorboard below the joystick.


19 posted on 01/08/2013 9:16:04 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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Canada needs four types of aircraft:

1) The Saab JAS39 Gripen E

2) The A-10 Warthog

3) An AWACS capable aircraft.

4) A small fleet of super tankers.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 12:29:06 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Tuesday he argues that Canada should purchase the Gripen fighter aircraft.

If they buy it, they'll be gripen'.

25 posted on 01/09/2013 6:49:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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