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"The odds are pretty small that you would be involved in a shooting, but what if it happened. what if it happened and you don't have a plan. Because hiding under the desk doesn't work," said Albuquerque police officer James Vautier.

"Run, it's very simple. run if you can, if you can't run, hide. That's where lockdowns come in," Vautier said.

So in one sentence, Vautier says hiding under a desk does not work and in the next he says run and hide. Which means his training is not worth a hill of beans. It might make someone feel good, like they are doing something.

Any active shooter training that does not involve the use of firearms to defend yourself is useless. Your other alternatives are to throw a stapler or use harsh language.

"We won't be there in time. the average shooting is over in 5-10 minutes. Hopefully we are there in time. Most likely we are not," Vautier said.

Gee I'm filled with confidence.

1 posted on 01/05/2013 6:55:42 PM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Redcitizen
Kids are more precious than money...
Too bad security in schools is looser than the average retail store.
And many many people go in & out of stores all day...
Size & population of any given facility or building are NOT a deterrant to simple security measures...
2 posted on 01/05/2013 7:16:18 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Redcitizen

Or put a biometric pop-open safe under the desk of teachers that want to stow their guns and deter the shooting from even occurring.


3 posted on 01/05/2013 7:17:54 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Redcitizen

He says “run, run if you can. But if you cannot run, hide”. Sounds like some honest advice for those who are unarmed at such incidents. Some people are trapped by architecture and have no escape avenue, so for them hiding is a better alternative than standing there openly.
A recent example is the kids who survived sandy hook locked in a closet where that austitard couldn’t get to them. Another is the woman in Aurora small enough able to completely hide below and behind the row of theater seats.

Vautier was honest and encouraged people to flee if possible, and that it was much preferable to just hiding if an escape route exists. Usually you don’t hear cops saying that. And it might come as a surprise to you, but that cop probably doesn’t write the laws and school policies.

Armed resistance is best, but high school and middle school kids simply will not be carrying. And no matter how much you may wish they would do so, most female teachers under the age of 30 vote for Obama, and would rather die that own a gun, even if it was allowed.

So that leaves escape if possible, or hide and barricade as best you can if running is no longer possible.
What’s so hard to understand?


4 posted on 01/05/2013 7:28:54 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Redcitizen

Active shooter training:

Two to center of mass, one to the head. Repeat until active shooter is permanently inactive.

What more do you need?


7 posted on 01/05/2013 7:39:28 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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