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1 posted on 01/05/2013 3:46:52 PM PST by kristinn
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White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.

You mean those same guys that then Virginia Attorney General and now Governor Bob McDonnell threatened to jail for coming down and trying to cause trouble in the Commonwealth?

92 posted on 01/06/2013 4:40:37 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Gun Control Mission Creep. A little regulation here, a small law there, expanding data bases, an increasingly dependent on government electorate who can’t be bothered to think for themselves...it is just a matter of time.


93 posted on 01/06/2013 4:55:00 AM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would ... strengthen mental health checks

THIS is a key part of the agenda. It is aimed DIRECTLY at veterans and their right to bear arms.

The proposed "measures" would brand every veteran with a PTSD or depression diagnosis, or who has had any medications for same, to be psychologically unfit to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights.

This is a back-door gun grab targeting the one group the Obamanation wants desperately to disarm.

95 posted on 01/06/2013 6:11:50 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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I think it was Huckabee who noted that more kids are killed with hammers in the U.S. than with guns. Will Hussein confiscate/outlaw all hammers?


106 posted on 01/06/2013 6:56:08 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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And NONE of the things listed would have stopped Sandy Hill Shooting.

I am so sick of stupid people.


115 posted on 01/06/2013 10:24:43 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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Let’s ban noncitizens from owning firearms and insist on this being in ANY new bill.


116 posted on 01/06/2013 11:01:54 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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BAXTER: We got your boy, Spearman! You better drop them guns and come walking down the street or I shoot him. You've got ten seconds!

CHARLEY WAITE: We ain't giving up our guns. He's gonna kill Button anyway.

BAXTER: One!

CHALEY WAITE: The only chance for him or us when we walk up is these guns.

BAXTER: Two! Three!

(To Waite) SPEARMAN: He's from the government, and he's here to help!

123 posted on 01/06/2013 3:22:14 PM PST by 444Flyer (Genesis 12:3)
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Oddly enough, none of the measures mentioned in the article would have prevented Sandy Hook. It’s almost as if they have another agenda. /sarc


124 posted on 01/06/2013 3:40:20 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Lesson: "Don't waste a crisis" by waiting too long, so (a) another crisis replaces that one, (b) the public can learn some true facts, to replace earlier emotional irrationality.

Why doesn't the GOP learn from the lefties and start exploiting crises for their policies?

129 posted on 01/06/2013 6:29:08 PM PST by expat2
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The democrats want us disarmed so that

instead of the 2 .5 million home invasions it is 10 million home invasions per year in America. compare that to the less than 100 killed in mass shootings per year. the media uses the fluke, the statistically nonexistent to make it seem like it happens all the time . what happens is burglaries, rapes(many not with guns), assaults by the hundreds of thousands per year each

instead of 400,000 women raped per year it is million
s

instead of hundreds of thousands of children, raped ,murdered and tortured per year it is millions.

compare that to the non-existant less than 100 killed mass shootings

40,000 Americans die in car accidents etc

but the main reasons democrats want to take away our gun rights is to empower government, make us slaves of the government, take away our individual rights and so that we can’t defend against a tyrannical government.


134 posted on 01/06/2013 8:33:46 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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Our second amendment right was given to us as protection against a tyrannical government, and that is exactly what we are facing now. The ones taking away this right are the exact same people the right was given as defense against. Are we going to sat back and allow those tyrants within our unconstitutional government to continue infringing on this right that was given to deal solely with them without a real fight?

This is something we can't accept any longer. If we allow it to pass we have no hope whatsoever at salvaging anything good our nation was built on. We can't allow them to disarm us without losing absolutely everything, including the slim hope that still existed when it comes to salvaging anything decent this nation was built on. We can either fight back to regain our liberty or die trying, or we can shamefully surrender a right that was given to us as a last defense to violently restore our Constitution by removing a tyrannical government. We have already lost so much when it comes to our Constitutional rights, and this must be where we all draw a line in the sand and refuse to comply with any further infringement.

I'm not just talking about our unconstitutional tyrannical government invading our homes to commit murder against those fighting for what our founding fathers wanted them to fight for either. We cannot accept more unconstitutional rules and regulations against our right to defend ourselves from these tyrants. Those infringements must be resisted in some fashion just as passionately as a violent home invasion by this slime will be resisted by many. No more laws and mandates that just continue to weaken us, allowing them to decide when they invade our homes to finalize their disarming of the population. Everything is lost at that point.

The Second Amendment has taken a lot of damage by our failure to get the actual meaning of the right out there to the general public. Liberals have been allowed to intentionally spread ignorance when it comes to the reason we were given the right to bear arms. Even recently I found that many supporters of the second amendment are ignorant about it's meaning, including intelligent gun owners who support the Second Amendment adamantly, but have heard nothing but the the hunting/sport shooting, or home\self defense against criminals arguments with almost nothing about it's true meaning. People have to know that we have the right to bear arms to overthrow a tyrannical government.

I don't know how many Second Amendment supporters are in the unknown about the true intentions of the right to bare arms, but with the way liberals have created an almost total blackout when it comes to the true meaning behind the amendment I wouldn't be surprised if it was a greater percentage than many would think. A massive campaign to contact and inform those people through mailing campaigns, etc. as quickly as possible seems like a good start to informing those individuals, along with politicians at all levels of state and federal government who may not even understand it's true meaning. After that they should all be pressured to start using it when speaking on the issue.

Liberals know exactly what they are doing in repeating lies about it's meaning, and they simply ignore the actual meaning, which is how they have spread so much misinformation, and bypassed our Constitution on several issues through frivolous, and intentional lies repeated over decades. It's a waste to attempt informing them of anything.

A mass outreach to inform our active military, starting with combat units, along with all levels of law enforcement, on the Constitution in general, along with the actual meaning of the 2nd amendment is also something that should be started. There are a lot of extremely intelligent people out there who don't know these things. It's not an insult to those people who have been fed lies, and intentionally not taught these things. Informing those intelligent people out there who don't know some of these Constitutional issues could be our best hope. Those who hold power along with the intellect to easily comprehend these things they didn't know before are out there, and should be the target of an information campaign. It's a mistake to assume that intelligent people in positions of power in the military and law enforcement can't be uninformed on many Constitutional issues that could potentially change their response to certain orders.

I don't know if we have the time to inform many at this point, but it seems like getting the true meaning for why we were given our Second Amendment right should be a priority by Second Amendment groups, considering the liberal disinformation campaign has helped it infringe on parts of the Constitution that are as clear in meaning as anything can be. I don't know why we allowed the distortion of it's meaning to begin with, but it needs to be changed in a very short amount of time.

Conservatives across the political spectrum need to be able to work together on this issue, as well as other huge Constitutional issues we alone agree on. It's important to look at those issues and realize that some of the most imminent to our chaotic fall are huge issues we all agree on, and have to be solved first. We can work together to save our nation before going back to the big issues of disagreement within the Conservative spectrum, or we can refuse to work together, and watch every sides positions on those issues become meaningless as more imminent problems destroy us. We all lose if we can't work together for long enough on the huge issues we agree on to find a solution that will then bring the other huge decisive issues back to the forefront.

135 posted on 01/07/2013 12:28:08 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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Hey Republican Rinos and “Deal Makers” Remember this. “One can respect one’s enemy but never will they respect a traitor.”


138 posted on 01/07/2013 7:47:23 AM PST by johnny reb
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My wife has a friend that owns a private security company is of high rank in the guard in one state. He told her that they (guard) were instructed to prepare a training program to prepare to confiscate private firearms. He passed this along as a warning. He also said he gave it its due attention and placed it in file 13.


142 posted on 01/08/2013 8:52:27 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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