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To: nevergore
nevergore: "Again, you can’t forward your argument without making it personal, “pal”...Haven’t “refused” to answer anything...."

I've made nothing "personal", merely asked the cogent questions here: where did you get such a lunatic idea, that "conservative" military officers might "revolt and take charge of the government"?
Did your own peabrain dream that up, or did somebody tell you it's a great idea?
And if so, who -- or at least what sort of person would say it?

nevergore: "Haven’t “refused” to answer anything...."

No, you've refused to answer every question.

nevergore: "I seem to remember another time our officer corp split and opposed the executive branch...around 1860...."

Seem to remember? Seem to remember?? You remember nothing, your brain is void of actual historical facts, and so you substitute for real history your lunatic ideas about what might happen in your own wet dreams.

And then you post them here!

In real history, as opposed to your wet dreams, there was never a military coup against the US government.
Rather, elected civilian authorities in various states declared themselves seceded from the Union, then formed their own confederation, then started and declared war on the United States.

At that point, military officers were forced to decide which civilian authority to give their allegiance, so some chose the old Union, others the new Confederacy.
So far as we know, no military officer ever planned to "revolt and take charge of the government", Union or Confederate.

nevergore: "If the country descended into chaos, would the military act against the populace?
Would they 'defect'?"

"Chaos" is not what happened in 1860 and 1861.
Instead there was an orderly process (unlawful, imho, but generally peaceful) to vote on secession and joining the new Confederacy.
The Confederacy then decided to start and formally declare war on the United States, forcing military officers to chose sides.
During that war, both sides did occasionally "act against the populace" of the other side, but where circa 600,000 soldiers died, the number of civilians killed by soldiers was a mere handful, and nearly always accidental.

So, I'll say it again: your problem is that knowing nothing of real American history, you have no clue about realistic future options.
Military officers planning to "revolt and take charge of the government" is not one, period.

58 posted on 01/07/2013 10:46:53 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I do not like what is going on here as much as you,i do share rgw ideas with all of you. But in response to the upcoming events on what is to happen. Police seem to be more military. As to see why is what this subject is about, how ever simply put that we not understand the entire situation. The world maybe set up for a disaster to cause the civil all along. Think about it, such radical movements in such short notice.

In my opinion, it happen way to fast, doesn’t mean the government is ready though. In fact they are very afraid, to see this all happen in such notice and response. The government is pushing funding’s into more money and more weapons. We will be at war soon. Fighting for the very freedom we founded upon in the beginning our country. I rather be asked a question about what is to do next rather on how i know. So be blunt if your going to insult me in any manner.


59 posted on 09/16/2013 1:48:19 AM PDT by The civilian perspective
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To: BroJoeK
"Chaos" is not what happened in 1860 and 1861. Instead there was an orderly process (unlawful, imho, but generally peaceful) to vote on secession and joining the new Confederacy. The Confederacy then decided to start and formally declare war on the United States, forcing military officers to chose sides. During that war, both sides did occasionally "act against the populace" of the other side, but where circa 600,000 soldiers died, the number of civilians killed by soldiers was a mere handful, and nearly always accidental.

Take out the part in parens and we are in total agreement.

62 posted on 09/16/2013 5:48:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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