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To: BroJoeK
"Did you go to school in this country, nevergore? Did you learn any US history, or was your mind corrupted by some other education? "

Sad to see you couldn't make your point without personal attack....Obviously you lack confidence in your stated position and believe by denigrating me, you discredit my position and strengthen yours....

The scenario I proposed is obviously only one of many possible outcomes if civil order, rule of law and adherence to the constitution disingrates. Many stars would have to align for that to happen (that was metaphorical).....

The executive branch has convertly waging a "war" against senior conservative officers for several years....forced early retirement, pass-over for promotions etc....

What is the greatest threat to any seated government? Two answers: First, the people (which is the way Americans resolve political differences) or the military (third world).

General human history is the guide.

51 posted on 01/06/2013 6:59:12 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: HogsBreath; Wisconsinlady
Sorry I didn't include you guy's in my answer to BroJoeK, see below...

"Did you go to school in this country, nevergore? Did you learn any US history, or was your mind corrupted by some other education? "

Sad to see you couldn't make your point without personal attack....Obviously you lack confidence in your stated position and believe by denigrating me, you discredit my position and strengthen yours....

The scenario I proposed is obviously only one of many possible outcomes if civil order, rule of law and adherence to the constitution disingrates. Many stars would have to align for that to happen (that was metaphorical).....

The executive branch has convertly waging a "war" against senior conservative officers for several years....forced early retirement, pass-over for promotions etc....

What is the greatest threat to any seated government? Two answers: First, the people (which is the way Americans resolve political differences) or the military (third world).

General human history is the guide.

53 posted on 01/06/2013 7:35:41 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore
nevergore: "Sad to see you couldn't make your point without personal attack"

I asked questions, which you refuse to answer, right pal?

nevergore: "The executive branch has convertly waging a "war" against senior conservative officers for several years....forced early retirement, pass-over for promotions etc...."

If it is the core of your argument -- that some senior officers get passed over for promotion, and will therefore move to "take control of the government" -- I'd call that pathetic.
From it's beginning the US military has always had a pyramid shape in terms of how many people occupy each rank -- the higher the rank, the fewer people hold it.

What this usually means is that for every three or four at any given rank, only one makes it to the next higher level.
So officers have always been passed over for promotion and forced into early retirement based on the needs of the services, not their own feelings of self-worth.

As for your allegation of the current administration's "war" on conservative officers, most officers are somewhat conservative (though non-political), and so necessarily, most passed by for promotions are conservatives.
And there's simply no possible way to remove some subjectivity from officer evaluations.
Senior officers will evaluate their subordinates at least somewhat according to their own values, and will try to advance those who most closely reflect themselves.
So, if a "don't ask, don't tell" officer achieves the highest ranks, there's a good chance his "don't ask, don't tell" subordinates will advance too.

During the past 32 years, the US military has lived under Republican administrations for 20 years, and Democrats for 12.
One might expect then for more conservative officers to outnumber liberal officers by two-to-one, but I doubt if it's anywhere near that close.
Ten to one is probably a more accurate figure.

Finally, and most important: the essence of American conservatism is law-abiding and dedication to the constitution.
Any serviceman who would abandon such core beliefs is thereby no longer "conservative".
Therefore it is by definition impossible to have a "conservative" coup against the government.

And why would a small group of liberal officers even think of overthrowing this administration?

Again I ask the question: who gave you the crazy idea that "conservative" officers would attempt to destroy the constitution to somehow allegedly "save" it?

54 posted on 01/06/2013 8:18:30 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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