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Armed Guards for Returning Sandy Hook Students
cnsnews.com ^ | Jan. 3, 2013 | Susan Jones

Posted on 01/03/2013 6:21:10 AM PST by PROCON

(CNSNews.com) - When children from Sandy Hook Elementary school return to class in neighboring Monroe, Conn. today, they'll be entering "the safest school in America," according to the Associated Press.

"Law enforcement officers have been guarding the new school, and by the reckoning of police, it is 'the safest school in America,'" the AP reported Thursday.

"I think right now it has to be the safest school in America," Monroe police Lt. Keith White was quoted as saying.

Having armed guards in schools is the National Rifle Association's suggestion for keeping children safe from the kind of terror that happened last month in Newtown, Conn.

"As parents, we do everything we can to keep our children safe. It is now time for us to assume responsibility for their safety at school," NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre said at a Dec. 21 news conference. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said.

LaPierre noted that five years ago, after the Virginia Tech mass-shooting, he called for armed security guards in every school, and the media "called me crazy."

"But what if, when Adam Lanza started shooting his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School last Friday, he had been confronted by qualified, armed security?" LaPierre asked. "Will you at least admit it's possible that 26 innocent lives might have been spared?"

LaPierre urged Congress "to act immediately, to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January."

And that's exactly what they're doing for the children at Sandy Hook Elementary, who are now returning to class under a "blanket of safety."

LaPierre's suggestion to put armed guards in all schools was met with howls of outrage, as summarized by the New York Daily News:

"What about trying to stop the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place? That’s common sense," said Sen. Charles Schumer.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg called LaPierre's speech “a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country.”

Rep. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who represents Newtown in Congress, tweeted that it was "the most revolting, tone deaf statement I’ve ever seen."

A number of Republicans also dismissed the NRA's suggestion: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said schools shouldn't be "an armed camp" because that wouldn't set a "positive example" for children. "We should be able to figure out other ways to enhance safety," Christie said.

However, policemen are now stationed at public schools in Marlboro, N.J., and other school systems may follow Marlboro's lead, the New Jersey Star-Ledger reported on Wednesday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; armedguards; banglist; guncontrol; sandyhook; sandyhookelementary; schoolsecurity; secondamendment
Interesting, wonder how the lamestreammedia will report this...
1 posted on 01/03/2013 6:21:20 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

They wont report this.

Even though it keeps the kids safe, it interferes with their gun confiscation politics.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 6:30:18 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: marktwain

FYI Ping.


3 posted on 01/03/2013 6:31:07 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON
who are now returning to class under a "blanket of safety."

But Obama, Bloomberg and Rahm tell me this is just crazy talk... Guns are bad mmmmkay?
4 posted on 01/03/2013 6:31:17 AM PST by TSgt (...voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.)
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To: PROCON

This is all so wrong. That school should NOT have armed guards. The liberal, leftist Democrats do not want that and I agree with them. Whoever made that decision should be fired.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 6:37:12 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: PROCON

Folks feel safer when there are people with guns around.....Oh no. Wait...... #liberal


6 posted on 01/03/2013 6:41:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“This is all so wrong. That school should NOT have armed guards. The liberal, leftist Democrats do not want that and I agree with them. Whoever made that decision should be fired.”

I don’t agree with you; nevertheless, Columbine HAD an armed guard on duty in 1999, who apparently had little skill with a weapon. He might have been able to save lives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.html


7 posted on 01/03/2013 6:49:27 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PROCON

“What about trying to stop the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place? That’s common sense,” said Sen. Charles Schumer.

Well we have been trying to stop the drug addicts from getting drugs for decades. How is that working out you moron?
New Law. Hey criminals, no more guns for you. You are not allowed to have or use guns. Okay? Please. Pretty please.. We have a Government dominated by total idiots........


8 posted on 01/03/2013 6:50:18 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Oops, linked to an ultra-leftist site. Sorry about that. Bet the comment will be yanked.

“This is all so wrong. That school should NOT have armed guards. The liberal, leftist Democrats do not want that and I agree with them. Whoever made that decision should be fired.”

I don’t agree with you; nevertheless, Columbine HAD an armed guard on duty in 1999, who apparently had little skill with a weapon. He might have been able to save lives.

Look it up to confirm if you need. Neil Gardner was the guard.


9 posted on 01/03/2013 6:51:33 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PROCON

Where were these armed guards on December 14, 2012?


10 posted on 01/03/2013 6:56:07 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Columbine HAD an armed guard on duty in 1999, who apparently had little skill with a weapon.”

Gee, you are in total agreement with Micheal Moore then? Maybe YOU need to do some research instead of just spouting (and linking to) the ultra left lies. Bottom line, the Columbine Guard was outside of the school when the shooting began. He did try to engage the shooters, but could not get any closer than 60 yards before exchanging gunfire. He was only armed with his service pistol. He knew he was up against at least 2 guys armed with rifles. He choose to not rush in against that by himself. He waited for backup. You think you would have done something different? Troll perhaps?


11 posted on 01/03/2013 7:23:43 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

You almost don’t deserve a response.

I don’t know what Moore has to say about it and don’t care.

According to the leftist link I provided, the guard allegedly fired only 4 shots.

I was responding to another poster who said we do NOT need armed guards.

Get with the program, a***ole.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 7:39:24 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PROCON

Too late the Phalaropes have flown


13 posted on 01/03/2013 7:54:30 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (duhhh!!.)
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To: PROCON; Regina
Armed guards?? A more accurate description would be "police presence," which has been present at ALL Newtown schools since 12/14/12.

At the temporary school for Sandy Hook students, half of their purpose is to keep the media at bay.

14 posted on 01/03/2013 8:01:28 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: treetopsandroofs

So you admit you are uninformed, don’t understand that firing 4 shots is an engagement, and don’t recognize sarcasm from the other poster. Then call me names.

You shouldn’t have responded, your ignorance is showing.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 8:03:10 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: treetopsandroofs; All
Look it up to confirm if you need. Neil Gardner was the guard.

You are correct. The problem was not that the guard was ineffective. The problem was that the policy was geared toward hostage taking, not active shooters. It was the same policy that brought us 911.. Do nothing... back away... negotiate... give them small things... make friends with them... finally get them to give up...

It can work when you are dealing with someone who wants to make a point or is just looking for attention.

When you are dealing with people who want to kill lots of innocents, and do not care if they survive... it is disastrous.

Policies where changed after 911.

16 posted on 01/03/2013 8:22:16 AM PST by marktwain
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To: treetopsandroofs

As a matter of fact, whoever wants armed guards at the schools in a gun-free zone should be imprisoned for life or shot on the spot. </s> How do you like that?


17 posted on 01/03/2013 8:31:30 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: PROCON
Ya don't need government police to perform these tasks.

Have a couple of parents from each school take turns volunteering, preferably pick military veterans to volunteer, and or provided basic training for others who might need training.

I'd bet the rent the parents would be lining up around the cafeteria to volunteer.

Many in communities all over America would be more than willing to train the parents who might need training.

Parents would be much better, as they would be more vigilant due to having a much greater stake in this endeavor than the overpaid from the local governments.

This is the American way to do things.

The only thing the police should do is volunteer to conduct basic backgrounds on the volunteers. Nothing more.

18 posted on 01/03/2013 8:42:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PilotDave

People like you give conservatives a bad reputation.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 8:43:16 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PROCON; Biggirl; Fudd Fan; holdonnow
""What about trying to stop the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place? That’s common sense," said Sen. Charles Schumer.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg called LaPierre's speech “a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country.”

Rep. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who represents Newtown in Congress, tweeted that it was "the most revolting, tone deaf statement I’ve ever seen."

A number of Republicans also dismissed the NRA's suggestion: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said schools shouldn't be "an armed camp" because that wouldn't set a "positive example" for children. "We should be able to figure out other ways to enhance safety," Christie said.

What a bunch of idiots, starting with Smucky Schumer.

20 posted on 01/03/2013 9:52:05 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: PROCON; All

If they’d been there to begin with, those kids wouldn’t be dead.

Yeah, I know....common sense...can’t have that; it doesn’t play well with liberals and their “feelings”...


21 posted on 01/03/2013 9:54:00 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Ditto.


22 posted on 01/03/2013 9:55:09 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: PROCON

But Herr Obama said armed guards in schools won’t work!!!!


23 posted on 01/03/2013 9:56:50 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: DTogo
"Armed guards?? A more accurate description would be "police presence," which has been present at ALL Newtown schools since 12/14/12."

And destroy all "gun free zone" signs.

"Police Presence" would be a very good sign.

24 posted on 01/03/2013 10:00:40 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: DTogo
Also, what about something like an ADT connection. Any teacher or staff could buzz it.

But, make sure no kids can get to it leading to false alarms.

25 posted on 01/03/2013 10:11:03 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: DTogo
"At the temporary school for Sandy Hook students, half of their purpose is to keep the media at bay."

Also, it would probably be too traumatic for kids to return to the scene of the most awful crime. There must be a lot of post traumatic syndrome for students, teachers and families.

School probably needs to be leveled and a new school at another location for present and future school children.

26 posted on 01/03/2013 10:16:16 AM PST by hummingbird (Support Hummingbird Migration!)
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To: treetopsandroofs; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; PROCON

I don’t agree with you; nevertheless, Columbine HAD an armed guard on duty in 1999, who apparently had little skill with a weapon.

No - MMTU is correct. What should be implemented is the full restoration of our Right under the Second Amendment.

  1. Eliminate the "Gun Free Zone".
  2. Allow lawful concealed carry and open carry if legal.
  3. Provide training and incentives for teachers, staff, and administration for qualification and practice.

I resent the ideas of putting kids in 'compounds', having locking doors on the 'cells'/classrooms, and wandering guards/'security' -- all of that is the equivalent of jail. No thanks! Control overall access at the perimeters, fine, but not inside the building.

Like the guard at Columbine, most lower-echelon cops and security guards only fire their weapons for qualifying; most CCW holders practice more and hit their targets better, and have fewer bystander impacts.

Either we have CCW, or we have armed guards and armed criminals and we will be prey for both!

27 posted on 01/03/2013 11:35:58 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: PROCON

LaPierre said nothing about using cops and for an obvious reason. Cops cost money. Money that comes from taxes. Homeowners hate paying taxes. Hence his called for “armed volunteers.” No thanks. I’d prefer professionals protecting kids than unemployed Bubba. Perhaps instead of issuing parking tickets or busting kids with weed they could shift priorities?


28 posted on 01/03/2013 2:31:18 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: PROCON

I bet Christie has an armed guard. The principal said it is the safest school in the country. Hypocracy running rampant in liberalville.


29 posted on 01/03/2013 5:50:35 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Look it up to confirm if you need. Neil Gardner was the guard.”

IIRC, the guard had left his gun in his car and was scared to death. He hid in a room until about 2 hours after the incident was over.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 6:00:27 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: PROCON

“A number of Republicans also dismissed the NRA’s suggestion: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said schools shouldn’t be “an armed camp” because that wouldn’t set a “positive example” for children. “We should be able to figure out other ways to enhance safety,” Christie said.

Isn’t an armed camp better than 20 funerals?

And if it is so darned easy, you do it.


31 posted on 01/03/2013 6:09:05 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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