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To: camle

“guns can never be safe. neither can automobiles, motorcycles, or crossing the street. the thing is that are they safer than NOT having guns?”

I think that is an invalid argument because automobiles et al are not designed to kill. Guns are designed to kill.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 5:36:43 PM PST by sagar
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To: sagar

I have a gun that is designed to shoot nails into walls. I have another gun that shoots staples too. I have yet another gun that shoots tape onto boxes. Can’t ever say that bows and arrows were ever designed to perform those tasks . . .

BTW, life isn’t safe and never will be either.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 5:42:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sagar

Attributed to one Marco Kloos...not sure of the source but Highly appreciate the sentiment.

why the gun is civilization.

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as


11 posted on 12/31/2012 5:45:55 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: sagar

“Guns are designed to kill.”

NO. HELL NO.

Please stop and examine your statement, repeated conveniently because it sounded good when you heard it.

Some guns are designed to fire a small, slow bullet toward a target. The small bullets would be inefficient at killing. They are slow, small, and without an expanding hollow point. They are NOT designed to kill, but to deliver an accurate bullet to a target.

I have had it with this ignorant and emotional parroting of anti-gun speech by fearful ninnies who will not or cannot engage the logic portion of their brains.

Is that clear???

Happy New Year to All


22 posted on 12/31/2012 6:54:18 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Honk Honk - I am the Goose that laid the Golden Eggs - and I have tightned the sphincter! ....)
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To: sagar

***Guns are designed to kill.****

Sam Colt said in his patents that it was “A machine for throwing balls”.

I take two shoelaces and tie one end of each to a leather pouch. I now have a machine for throwing rocks, or a sling.

If some damn fool stands in front of where the rock lands I guess it could be said it is a weapon designed to kill.


24 posted on 12/31/2012 6:59:13 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: sagar

Automobile deaths are a direct result of automobile design. They are not “accidental” deaths, but the result of auto design features. An automobile that was designed not to kill would look and drive quite differently.


26 posted on 12/31/2012 7:55:18 PM PST by gotribe
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To: sagar
Guns are designed to kill.

My guns are not designed to kill. They are designed to be used as a tool to keep others from killing me. They are designed to protect my family and my treasure.

They are designed to prevent others from taking my freedom. They are designed to help me stop my country from being turned into a third world dictatorship.

My guns have served most of these purposes and are ready to serve the rest and yet have killed no one.

It is a perspective thing. The difference between being a free man and a slave.

Slaves don't have guns.

37 posted on 12/31/2012 9:38:13 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: sagar

guns are designed to kill? they are designed to hurl a projectile. whether that deters, protects, recreates (ass in hitting a target) or kills depends upon the situation


47 posted on 01/01/2013 12:11:35 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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