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Beware: 11,000 psychotics on streets (Of New York City)
New York Post ^ | 12/30/2012 | By GARY BUISO

Posted on 12/30/2012 3:37:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The city streets are teeming with thousands of mentally ill homeless people capable of psychotic acts of random violence if left untreated, experts warned yesterday.

As many as 11,000 of the city’s 33,000 homeless adults have some form of mental illness, said D.J. Jaffe, executive director of the Mental Illness Policy Organization.

Of that number, about 3,300 are potentially violent, Jaffe said.

“When untreated, they’re capable of horrific acts,” said Jaffe. “The danger is that they’re so sick that they don’t know they’re sick, and their brain is incapable of regulating their own behavior.”

He urged New Yorkers to be especially wary of people screaming at voices only they can hear, wearing tons of clothes in the summer or eating out of trash cans.

“But if you’re walking down the street, you know who’s mentally ill — it doesn’t take a nuclear scientist.”

Jaffe said steps must be taken to strengthen Kendra’s Law — a loophole-ridden 1999 measure intended to allow courts to forcibly treat the dangerously unhinged.

“We want mandatory evaluations of all mentally ill who are being released from jails, prisons or involuntary hospitalizations,” he said.

Even Andrew Goldstein, the schizophrenic man who shoved Kendra Webdale to her death in front of a train in 1999, is calling for tougher laws — to keep nuts like himself off the street.

“There should be stricter regulations,” he told The Post in his first-ever jailhouse interview.

The city’s Department of Homeless Services disputed Jaffe’s figures but characterized the number of mentally ill homeless who do not use its shelter system as “significant.”

“If people feel that there is someone in the street that’s dangerous, they need to call 911,” said spokeswoman Barbara Brancaccio.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: homeless; mentallyill; newyork; psychotic
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1 posted on 12/30/2012 3:37:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

11,001 if you count Bloomberg.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 3:39:20 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read the caption and thought the Democrats were having another convention!


3 posted on 12/30/2012 3:40:07 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: SeekAndFind

Never visited New York, never want to go.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 3:42:08 PM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: tired&retired

LOL!


5 posted on 12/30/2012 3:42:26 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a few weeks after a homeless man pushed a Korean immigrant in front of an oncoming subway train ( caught on camera and sold to the New York Post ), another similar incident occurred.

See here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/28/us/new-york-subway-death/index.html

Mumbling woman pushes man to his death in front of subway train

EXCERPT:

New York (CNN) — For the second time in a month, a man has been shoved to his death in front of a train on a New York City subway platform, police said.

The New York Police Department on Friday identified the victim as Sunando Sen, 46, of Queens.

__________________________________

MORE HERE:

Woman charged with murder as a hate crime in deadly New York subway push

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/30/nyc-subway-push-victim-was-from-india-police-say/#ixzz2Ga6k5nCJ

EXCERPT:

A woman suspected in the death of an immigrant who was pushed off a New York City subway platform has been ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.

Erika Menendez, 31, was arraigned Saturday night on a charge of murder as a hate crime. She had told police she has hated Muslims since Sept. 11 and thought the victim was one. Judge Gia Morris ordered that Menendez be held without bail and be given a mental health exam.

Menendez is charged in the death of Sunando Sen, who was crushed by a train in Queens on Thursday night. Friends and co-workers said Sen, a 46-year-old Indian immigrant, was Hindu.

“I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up,” Menendez told police, according to the district attorney’s office.

“The defendant is accused of committing what is every subway commuter’s worst nightmare,” Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said.

Menendez was incoherent at her arraignment in Queens criminal court, at one point laughing so hard that the judge told her defense lawyer, “You’re going to have to have your client stop laughing.”

Menendez admitted shoving Sen, who was pushed from behind, authorities said. She was arrested after a tip by a passer-by who saw her on a street and thought she looked like the woman in a surveillance video released by police.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 3:42:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: tired&retired

LOL!


7 posted on 12/30/2012 3:42:57 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: tired&retired

In five years, the administration will be putting these pele t death along with Jews and middle lass white Christian males.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 3:43:00 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (You can't bring something to its knees that refuses to stand on its own)
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To: tired&retired

Just a few weeks after a homeless man pushed a Korean immigrant in front of an oncoming subway train ( caught on camera and sold to the New York Post ), another similar incident occurred.

See here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/28/us/new-york-subway-death/index.html

Mumbling woman pushes man to his death in front of subway train

EXCERPT:

New York (CNN) — For the second time in a month, a man has been shoved to his death in front of a train on a New York City subway platform, police said.

The New York Police Department on Friday identified the victim as Sunando Sen, 46, of Queens.

__________________________________

MORE HERE:

Woman charged with murder as a hate crime in deadly New York subway push

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/30/nyc-subway-push-victim-was-from-india-police-say/#ixzz2Ga6k5nCJ

EXCERPT:

A woman suspected in the death of an immigrant who was pushed off a New York City subway platform has been ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.

Erika Menendez, 31, was arraigned Saturday night on a charge of murder as a hate crime. She had told police she has hated Muslims since Sept. 11 and thought the victim was one. Judge Gia Morris ordered that Menendez be held without bail and be given a mental health exam.

Menendez is charged in the death of Sunando Sen, who was crushed by a train in Queens on Thursday night. Friends and co-workers said Sen, a 46-year-old Indian immigrant, was Hindu.

“I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I’ve been beating them up,” Menendez told police, according to the district attorney’s office.

“The defendant is accused of committing what is every subway commuter’s worst nightmare,” Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said.

Menendez was incoherent at her arraignment in Queens criminal court, at one point laughing so hard that the judge told her defense lawyer, “You’re going to have to have your client stop laughing.”

Menendez admitted shoving Sen, who was pushed from behind, authorities said. She was arrested after a tip by a passer-by who saw her on a street and thought she looked like the woman in a surveillance video released by police.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 3:43:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“There should be stricter regulations,”

There were. They were, for the most part, institutionalized and medicated until the 80s, when the lib-dem morons/idiots/cretins/scumbags sued and got them released on to the streets. The cities have progressively turned into sewers, since. NYC & SF are wonderful examples.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 3:44:27 PM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The best thing to ever come out of NYC is the Lincoln tunnel.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 3:44:56 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I called 911 every time I felt someone was dangerous I would be on the phone continuously. Most of all I want them to pick up Barack Obama and put him in a rubber room in a mental institution in some far-away country where we’ll never hear from him again.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 3:45:39 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: SeekAndFind

Quite obviously this is all the fault of the Bloomberg administration. Time to abolish the subway!


13 posted on 12/30/2012 3:46:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Only 11,000?


14 posted on 12/30/2012 3:47:22 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The city streets are teeming with thousands of mentally ill homeless people capable of psychotic acts of random violence if left untreated, experts warned yesterday.""""....

Really? Who would have known. This article is rich with satire. lol

15 posted on 12/30/2012 3:47:27 PM PST by annieokie
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To: SeekAndFind

They have decided that the mentally ill can be trusted to take thier medication be put in an out patient program thru the jail system and the schools system and live amongst us. “They” are the feds who forced the states who forced the federally subsidized state agencies. Who pays in the end? Yet the scream gun control, instead of mental health control


16 posted on 12/30/2012 3:48:31 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

hurry up and throw a concert


17 posted on 12/30/2012 3:49:21 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: SeekAndFind
Beware: 11,000 psychotics on streets (Of New York City)

That's all?

18 posted on 12/30/2012 3:49:41 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: carriage_hill
None of which explains why San Fran and NYC have to have a minimum quota of mentally ill people in elected positions on the city council, in Congress, etc.

Tony Weiner and Chucky Schumer are, of course, hard core New Yorkers who would have been undergoing forced treatment almost anywhere else.

19 posted on 12/30/2012 3:49:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Alaska Wolf

There are an equal number sitting in windowsills preparing to jump out, and an even greater number fully employed by city government!


20 posted on 12/30/2012 3:51:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

Ciudad Juárez starting to look like a nice place...


21 posted on 12/30/2012 3:54:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will be sure to stay out of the Big Apple


22 posted on 12/30/2012 3:56:03 PM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: SeekAndFind

11,000?....

That’s just the staff at the NY Times....


23 posted on 12/30/2012 3:59:12 PM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: exnavy

The only thing I miss about NY is the pizza and when we were kids, Rockefeller Center at XMAS, other then that it’s a POS city.


24 posted on 12/30/2012 4:01:51 PM PST by 1217Chic
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To: tired&retired

Read the caption and thought the Democrats were having another convention!


Nah, even those 11,000 nuts are sane enough not to Boo God and Israel


25 posted on 12/30/2012 4:02:33 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: muawiyah

Weiner, Schumer, Nadler, Cuomo, Brown, Fineswine, Boxershorts etc all need 220v shock therapy. Actually, 500mW laser therapy would be far better.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 4:04:23 PM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Homeless” is not the problem in itself .. The latest nutcase was living with her family, who was trying desperately to get her permanently or long-term hospitalized. The woman was bipolar, would flip out, and they or the police would bring her to the hospital - where, as one family member said, the doctors would give her a couple of pills and send her out again.

This article makes it sound as if only the homeless are being untreated, but that’s not true. It’s simply impossible to get someone committed until they have succeeded in killing some innocent person.


27 posted on 12/30/2012 4:05:58 PM PST by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

...seems like a good reason to shut down the subway system...far too dangerous...


28 posted on 12/30/2012 4:06:04 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: 1217Chic

RE: The only thing I miss about NY is the pizza and when we were kids, Rockefeller Center at XMAS, other then that it’s a POS city.

So, where did you move to?


29 posted on 12/30/2012 4:06:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

...seems like a good reason to shut down the subway system...far too dangerous...


30 posted on 12/30/2012 4:11:00 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry people, I LOVE that city. Their violent crime rate is lower than many states, much lower than Houston, and almost as low as Texas overall.

And I agree with the other guy - THE PIZZA IS GREAT!!!


31 posted on 12/30/2012 4:13:05 PM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: SeekAndFind

I am inthe 4 train all the time and this article barely scratches the surface. Many many many crazies in the subways lately.


32 posted on 12/30/2012 4:17:06 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

I grew up in New York City, and rode the subways until I finally escaped the city at 18. You learn to never, never, NEVER stand near the edge of the platform as a train nears a crowded station. You also develop the instinct to look behind you as the train enters the station, regardless of the number of people on the platform (I still practice this in every train station I’m in, even though I no longer live in NYC).

Of course, as a native New Yorker, it’s ingrained in you since late childhood to never be unaware of your surroundings. I’ve been away from there for over 30 years now and still practice that.


33 posted on 12/30/2012 4:20:01 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait, wasn’t there a movie called 10,000 Maniacs!?


34 posted on 12/30/2012 4:21:56 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: COBOL2Java

And you never look anyone in the eyes.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 4:22:54 PM PST by katnip (Why Do Democrats Hate Babies?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Nice little city ya got here, Bloomberg. It would be a shame if a bunch of loonies was ta ruin it. Me and the boys can fix this little problem for youse for the mere sum of $xzz billion.”


36 posted on 12/30/2012 4:26:04 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: tet68
wasn’t there a movie called 10,000 Maniacs!?

Don't know, but I know of a well known Alternative Rock Band called 10,000 Maniacs. And yes, they are New Yorkers.


37 posted on 12/30/2012 4:27:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BobL

I love NYC! Some of the greatest restaruants in the world. Some of the greatest, most tolerant people in the world. Fashion center of the world. Art center of the world. Financial center of the world (at least for the next week or so)
I don’t understand all the haters.....some folks like to live in the weeds, and others like to live in the greatest city in the world.
Its all good.


38 posted on 12/30/2012 4:27:22 PM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: SeekAndFind

NYC hazards alert...


39 posted on 12/30/2012 4:27:33 PM PST by indthkr
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To: katnip
And you never look anyone in the eyes.

Absolutely. Anyone wonder where the expression "Hey! You lookin' at me?" come from?

40 posted on 12/30/2012 4:27:33 PM PST by COBOL2Java (kak-is-toc-ra-cy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. See: GOP-e)
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To: Fred911; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Fashion center of the world

Lot of FReepers don't know it. Now that they've been educated, they'll love New York. If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.

41 posted on 12/30/2012 4:30:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

This article only talks of the homeless. NY has a major mental illness problem and it is not confined to homeless. The residents of NY are a different breed to say the least. Mental illness makes Ny the shithole is has always been.


42 posted on 12/30/2012 4:30:41 PM PST by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I was going to say the biggest nut is in the Mayor’s office.


43 posted on 12/30/2012 4:30:50 PM PST by Venturer
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To: COBOL2Java
RE: Anyone wonder where the expression "Hey! You lookin' at me?" come from?

I do know where the expression: "YOU talkin' to me?" came from...


44 posted on 12/30/2012 4:31:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Fred911

“I don’t understand all the haters.....some folks like to live in the weeds, and others like to live in the greatest city in the world.”

I doubt they’ve really experienced it. It’s mind boggling, even compared to other large American cities. But lodging costs a fortune (either for visiting or living), and that probably gets under people’s skin (that I can understand). But the rest of the city is only expensive if you want it to be. You can spend a week going to free museums, for example.

Yes, Bloomberg is still a jerk, but he’s also IMPROVED on Rudy’s crime crackdown. The city is a fun place to visit...maybe a fun place to live, depending on one’s specific circumstance (i.e., making enough money and accepting that a car doesn’t happen if you make under $500k).


45 posted on 12/30/2012 4:32:37 PM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: DrDude

I live here and agree w you.


46 posted on 12/30/2012 4:33:39 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: BobL

NYC is one of the few cities where you don’t need a car to get around.


47 posted on 12/30/2012 4:34:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Doncha HEART New York?!


48 posted on 12/30/2012 4:36:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“And yes, they are New Yorkers.”

For the record, no pun intended, 10,000 Maniacs are from Jamestown, NY which is about 400 miles from NYC. There is a hell of a lot of New York State outside of NYC.


49 posted on 12/30/2012 4:42:40 PM PST by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is one perspective on certain homeless/panhandlers from a CHL holder:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=JuG-JukwUIM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJuG-JukwUIM


50 posted on 12/30/2012 4:47:13 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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