[apillar]

Well there may be more truth than Gregory realizes. After all, it was Lincoln that turned the United States from a lose collection of Sovereign states with a weak central government into the “Hotel California” where you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave (the Republic). Obama is just the latest in that line of tyrants that puts the boot of the mighty imperial federal government on the necks of the states and citizens.

[central_va]

After all, it was Lincoln that turned the United States from a lose collection of Sovereign states with a weak central government into the “Hotel California” where you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave (the Republic).

No matter what any past, present or future President has done or does, they can never be or could be as bad and harmful as Lincoln. He destroyed the founder's republic - forever.

Sic Semper Tyrannis.

[Happy Rain]

The results of America's 2nd Great Patriotic War Against Centralized Tyranny (1861-1865) was the ONLY and I mean ONLY one in human history where the ends did indeed justify the means...

...it was a fortunate fluke but a fluke nonetheless by American traditions...

...we won't lose again with the 3rd.

[Owl558]

“After all, it was Lincoln that turned the United States from a lose collection of Sovereign states with a weak central government into the “Hotel California” where you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave (the Republic).”

President Washington personally lead an army into the field to prevent the secession of western Pennsylvania. Right or wrong, the notion that “you can never leave” didn’t start with President Lincoln, who was following almost 100 years of federal precident vis-a-vis insurrections.

I think the last time we were actually “a loose collection of Sovereign states with a weak central government...”, as you describe, was under “The Articles of Confederation and PERPETUAL UNION” (full title, emphasis mine lol).

[dennisw]

I respect the military and the Defense Department but aside from them the Federal Gov’t is a jobs, medical benefits and pension program that can fund itself via printing it’s own imaginary money via the Federal Reserve buying up Federal issued debt

This Federal jobs program is increasing the preserve of liberals, gays, and incompetent affirmative action hires such as lesbians, women and minorities. They will only hire their own. This theme varies from Federal agency to Federal agency