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Screw em all..............
1 posted on 12/28/2012 5:14:09 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

It is totally a political problem.

EVERYBODY, including the rats, knows that the meaningless, drop-in-the-bucket tax hike on “the rich” does next to nothing to address America’s debt and deficit and is, rather, a purely symbolic concession demanded by the rats for the sole purpose of dividing and ultimately destroying the GOP. The rats need the GOP to abandon its most consistent and important core principle and agree to a tax hike - - ANY tax hike - - and then they will beat the GOP to death. The American public will never believe the Republicans again, and the party will die.

This is why Ubanga wouldn’t bite on the “close loopholes and cap deductions” crap in lieu of a definite rate hike. Even though the revenues would be about the same, with the “close loopholes and cap deductions” plan the Republicans would be able to talk out both sides of their mouth when trying to convince the ignorant chattering class that they didn’t raise taxes. Ubanga wants something more concrete, something the Republicans can’t lie their way out of.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 5:18:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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How is this even Constitutional, when all "Ways and Means" bills MUST originate in the House of Representatives?

ARTICLE I, Section 7

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

3 posted on 12/28/2012 5:19:44 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The Rinos and the Rats will form a coalition in the Senate to screw us
again. Same with the House. Pelosi will provide the Rat votes needed
to screws us there.
May the 2014 election be a pox on both parties.
Throw all the bums out election on both sides.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 5:20:47 PM PST by tennmountainman
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This is a win for Boehner. He has been saying for two weeks that the House already passed tax cuts and the Senate needs to act.


5 posted on 12/28/2012 5:21:58 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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Ubama has such a great job.

Just make up a meaningless term like "fiscal cliff" and watch the monkey's fall all over themselves.

7 posted on 12/28/2012 5:24:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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Ubama was re-elected President of the Democrats of the United States of America - - congratulations to him. I'm sure he feels pretty good about that, invincible even, and that's probably why he looks so arrogant these days and figures he can issue threats and act with impunity like a bully. Well, I sure hope somebody has the balls to clue that scumbag Ubama in that his Chicago thug way of doing things just isn't going to fly with a Republican House. Nobody likes to be bullied.

He also needs to be told flat out that if he wants more money confiscated from working, taxpaying, traditional American families (the "Republican base") in order to continue buying the votes of the ignorant moocher class (the "Democrat base"), then he's first going to have to get a Democrat House elected.

No, I am not holding my breath that any Republican has the balls to talk to the scumbag Ubama in a language he understands.

Oh well... Let's all limber up so we can grab our ankles. Here comes a "deal".

11 posted on 12/28/2012 5:37:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Yes raise our taxes and we vote you out. Just like last tax hike. Adios senators.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 5:45:19 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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The Leftists in Congress have no intention of not going over the cliff. Failure to prevent massive tax hikes means lots more money for them to abuse. The current situation is “either we come to an agreement or you give us everything we want.”


16 posted on 12/28/2012 5:47:04 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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Let Obama and the DEMo-rats take us over the cliff.

REPUBLICANS JUST -SAY NO!!!!!!!!

WE ARE TAXED ENOUGH!!!!!


25 posted on 12/28/2012 6:47:58 PM PST by victim soul
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Yep, screw em all.. Let the taxes for everyone go up and watch a third party emerge in 2014-2016.

The Democrat party is corrupt and the GOP has become a party for losers. History will bury them both.

26 posted on 12/28/2012 6:55:25 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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Great. JUST GREAT. You can't get permissions from your Dad to drive the car so you just ask Mom. The Senate is the origination point of this detestable, Lose/Lose position know as sequestration and other egregious errors impersonating sound law. The only difference between the House negotiating for this deal and the Senate negotiating is that Mitch The Bitch McConnell will not have as much volume as he folds and he won't have to have a jar of Vaseline since he is a KY user.
Who gets protected? The fag cat donors, the unions, and the tax consumers. Who gets hurt? Everybody else. I hope the Republican resist compromise of their few remaining principles.
38 posted on 12/28/2012 11:00:13 PM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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Face it folks; no politician in either party thinks we can ever balance the budget again. If they did they would not be engaged in bitter battles about how to shave a mere $200 Billion off a deficit that totals $1002 Billion. What about the fiscal cliff which both sides fear like it was Armageddon? It only reduces the red ink by $464 Billion leaving a hole of more than half a Trillion dollars. If cutting spending and increasing revenues enough to reduce the deficit to $538 Billion will crash the economy and send us all to financial ruin how in the hell can we ever get it to zero?


72 posted on 12/29/2012 11:11:53 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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The House should make the Senate pass a budget before any other input is accepted from them.


90 posted on 12/29/2012 8:25:34 PM PST by jospehm20
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The RINO GOPe are responsible for signing on to the fiscal cliff deal as a can kicking exercise hoping that their middle of the road strategery would give them the POTUS by now.

Loosers.....

96 posted on 12/30/2012 4:26:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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