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Breaking: Obama to make a statement at 5:45 PM EST following fiscal cliff meeting-Live Thread[12-28]
nbcnews.com ^ | December 28, 2012 | NBC News and wire services

Posted on 12/28/2012 2:45:39 PM PST by John W

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To: John W

I heard the Kenyan retard whining that the GOP wants to do everything at the last minute. Why doesn’t somebody, ANYBODY, say, “Okay Barry. Show us ONE budget that you and your boy, Dingy Harry, have ever sent to Congress”.


101 posted on 12/28/2012 4:53:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: 100%FEDUP


The problem with Obama is that no one associated with his disaster of an Administration matches the intelligence of this guy



All we are stuck with is



and


102 posted on 12/28/2012 5:38:09 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: John W

The one and only statement I want to hear from this asshole is “I quit”!


103 posted on 12/28/2012 5:41:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: 100%FEDUP
Sorry, "All we are stuck with is are." Added the Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator coffee cup at the last second
104 posted on 12/28/2012 5:43:49 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Toespi
Now just what kind of impact do you think this lie will have on the republicans? They don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of getting anything out of this mess. They get bashed 24/7 we don’t need it on this conservative website.

And right there is YOUR problem. Republicans are NOT Conservatives. Get it through your head and you can see the game in a different light entirely.

105 posted on 12/28/2012 6:17:25 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Michael Barnes

I don’t have a PROBLEM. The republicans are a hell of a lot more conservative than the liberals that are running this country. You want another party? Well I wouldn’t mind it either but it will take decades before a viable, credible conservative party could win, it will be an uphill battle into the wind. We will be fighting media, new immigrants, the takers, and social issues. There isn’t any time left so we better get behind what we have.


106 posted on 12/28/2012 6:28:44 PM PST by Toespi
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To: John W
Obama to make a statement at 5:45 PM EST following falling over fiscal cliff...
107 posted on 12/28/2012 6:34:51 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Toespi; Michael Barnes

The solution is simple: How about we take back OUR party ? We the Conservatives outnumber the RINO quislings by a healthy margin. Let’s throw our weight around for a change.


108 posted on 12/28/2012 6:37:41 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: VikingMom

No, but you do need to include the PRICE tag-—


109 posted on 12/28/2012 6:43:26 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (EPA will ruin your life)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

That is what has to be done. When they call this house for money I tell them precisely why they won’t get any. But for right now, this country is dangling by a thread, time is running out and the only weapon we have between us and tyranny are the house republicans.


110 posted on 12/28/2012 6:56:58 PM PST by Toespi
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To: avacado

Hah! They’re singing, “There Ain’t Nobody Here But Us Chickens.”


111 posted on 12/28/2012 7:02:10 PM PST by miserare
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To: rollo tomasi

OBAMA: “I’ve tried to work with the Republicans but they are too determined to raise taxes on the middle class and give their rich buddies big tax cuts...”

Wow that intelligent way of speaking is impressive

He is SO divisive it is sickening!
you can see sheeple at home going “Ya Ya! That’s right! Stick it to em Barry”

Obama’s poor buddies:

Jeffrey Immelt GE and jobs czar
-net worth is $60 million dollars

Bill Gates ‘s Net Worth is about
$56 Billion

Zuckerberg’s (Facebook) whose net worth was Forbes estimated at $17.5 billion
and annual salary of $22 million.

Billionaire Warren Buffett $46 B

Michael Bloomberg NYC mayor $25 billion

Nancy Pelosi is among the richest members of Congress,[111] with an estimated net worth of approximately $58 million the 12th highest estimated net worth in Congress
Pelosi’s Gvt paycheck? $194,000 (with O’s new pay rate)

JayZ and beyonce (first fistbumpers BFFs)a reported combined net worth of more than $700 million

i could provide links but i already spent too much time writing this already


112 posted on 12/28/2012 7:02:18 PM PST by MaryLou1
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Given the choice between a conservative and a Communist, too many RINOs will pick the communist. That is the problem.


113 posted on 12/28/2012 7:05:06 PM PST by Homer1
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Given the choice between a conservative and a Communist, too many RINOs will pick the communist. That is the problem.


114 posted on 12/28/2012 7:05:19 PM PST by Homer1
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This President and his party are willing to take this nation further down and blame the Republican “Majority Party”. You and I know the republicans are not the majority party in DC but most Americans think they are. Ignorance. It’s sad to say but true. This is a fight for control of the House. The Democrats will likely win it and why? John Boehner.

The truth is it’s the Republican controlled House that’s the BIG elephant in the room. OBAMA IS RIGHT! They really are the problem. Just not for the reasons Obama claims in all his lies. Shame on Boehner for all he has allowed this President to do since the GOP gained control in 2010. The truth is, the Republicans no longer deserve to keep the House. If I feel this way as much as I dislike Nancy Pelosi I know millions of other feel this way.

At this point I see a super majority happening in 2014.

I think this is exactly what Boehner wants. Less work for him if the GOP is the minority party.

We all know Obama HATES America and the Constitution. Knowing that, can you blame him for taking advantage of the do nothing Republicans?


115 posted on 12/28/2012 7:12:32 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: John W

116 posted on 12/28/2012 7:17:03 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: dennisw
President Camacho forgot to fire his machine gun


117 posted on 12/28/2012 7:17:44 PM PST by henbane
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To: MaryLou1
OBAMA: “I’ve tried to work with the Republicans but they are too determined to raise taxes on the middle class and give their rich buddies big tax cuts...”

We need a new Speaker. Someone who knows how to make Obama and his theory look stupid. It's not enough to say "Raising taxes is bad". It has to be explained to the American people WHY it is a bad idea and make Obama look like an idiot.

Well, the last I heard Boehner agreed that the rich need to pay more.

We've lost the argument because we do not have anybody articulate to be speaking to the American people. Problem is, too many people are in Congress claiming they are against raising taxes solely to keep a campaign promise but deep down inside they really have no idea how the whole theory works. To them it's just a shallow campaign promise. Nothing more.

Next week the unemployment checks stop. Boehner will get blamed for this and everything else. Blaming the republicans for the fiscal cliff has been a goal of the democratic party. They are clearing the way to take over the House in 2014. It appears they will take it.

According to the news, the democrats won big in November yet EVERY news event since has somehow been the blame of the republicans from Hurricane Sandy to the School Mass Murders and the recent northeast snowstorms.

The republicans do not deserve to keep the House in 2014. If I feel this way as much as I dislike Nancy Pelosi then millions of others do too.

At this point I see the democrats with a super majority come November 2014. Hey, I give them this - they worked hard for it.

Boehner should have been replaced long ago. Obama's no longer the problem. It's the people who allow Obama to keep acting with these tactics that's the problem.

The GOP has failed America as much as the democrats have destroyed it.

118 posted on 12/28/2012 7:26:21 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: timestax

MB/al queda BUMP


119 posted on 12/28/2012 7:28:21 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: tsowellfan

A pox on both their houses!


120 posted on 12/28/2012 7:28:53 PM PST by miserare
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To: Absolutely Nobama

The same reason you’d buy a 2014 Edsel? The name has been so tarnished and beaten by those on the inside of the party (let alone the media and Dems), no concise plan of action nor detailed reasons have come from the GOP in ages.

Why again should anyone fight to re-establish the GOP name?? Maybe they should start backing gay ‘marriage’, or illegals...Yeah, that’ll bring everyone back to the fold...


121 posted on 12/28/2012 7:39:06 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Toespi

What we have got another four years of this mess. The republicans are in bed with the rats. What better do we have to do?


122 posted on 12/28/2012 8:00:21 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: avacado

LOL! SPLENDID capture of Republicans! Love it!


123 posted on 12/28/2012 8:05:22 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: 21twelve
Or perhaps I’m missing something that makes him not able to extend it - you made it sound like it needed a vote. (Or is the vote only needed if he changes the bill - which of course would make it a new bill and require a vote). Sorry if I’m being dense!

In order to extend the Bush tax cuts you need a new bill. If there is no bill, then the tax rates revert back to the Clinton-era tax rates. Of course it requires passage by both houses of Congress and the signature of the President. Where have you been?

124 posted on 12/28/2012 8:10:26 PM PST by kabar
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To: tomd2

Brilliant !


125 posted on 12/28/2012 8:22:24 PM PST by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: kabar

From Dec. 17, 2010:

“The bill [that Obama signed], which was largely worked out earlier this month between the White House and Congressional Republicans, extends the Bush-era tax cuts for all Americans for two years, extends unemployment benefits for 13 months and includes a one-year Social Security tax cut, among other measures.”

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Thanks for your patience kabar! The way I had read this 2010 action was that it was Obama (by himself) had extended the cuts. I don’t recall the huge clash and “emergency” that we have now, so I thought it was a simple thing of him just “extending the current bill”. I suppose Obamacare was thick and heavy around that time(?), so perhaps the tax increases and ensuing drama were saved for another day.

Still - I wish the Republicans would lay the burden on Obama - if it was good enough two years ago, it is good enough for today. The economy has not improved that much, even by official numbers. (If any in actual “main street” reality).


126 posted on 12/28/2012 8:25:31 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: John W

I was in the shower. What did he say?


127 posted on 12/28/2012 10:25:46 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Mastador1

McConnell will fold like an old blanket. The fix has been in for weeks. they want to avoid the onslaught of conservative rage so they are putting off until there is no time on the clock. This is such a sickening thing to watch.
217 socialist will sign a request for a vote including 40 republicrats. Boehner will “oppose” but under the rules he will say he has to call for a vote. It will pass and all conservatives will be screwed!! The “deal” will be Tax increases and MORE SPENDING!! It will be the capitulation of our lives!! All hell must then break lose or we are finished!! This is our party!! We out number these socialists 3 to 1 !! Kick them out of our party!! No more McCains. No more Romney. GET THE HELL OUT WE ARE TAKING OVER. Boehner must be voted out on January 3rd!!!email your senators and representative NOW!!We aren’t buying this cave in!!


128 posted on 12/28/2012 10:27:30 PM PST by willowdean
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To: John W

MSM is now gearing up for the SOB stories.

People crying in the streets begging for food.


129 posted on 12/28/2012 11:07:41 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Captain Peter Blood

What’s the saying...”Politicians are like diapers, you have to change them frequently and for the same reason.” ;o)


130 posted on 12/28/2012 11:18:42 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: John W

This fiscal cliff hysteria is intended to cover the real fiscal cliff that is looming over the horizon. If you will remember, Obama wants unfettered control over raising the national debt.

Now he knows that the House, under the Constitution has that power and he does not. He actually tried to make this part of a deal.

Raise the debt limit and do nothing to control the Federal Spending and witness what a REAL FISCAL CLIFF looks like.

We are at the precipice...

By the way, he would like nothing more than the raising of taxes on ALL AMERICANS. I am sure this is beyond his wildest dreams.

Day in and day out saying he is raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires and setting the base line at $250,000 per year. Yeah, Obama is just giddy at the prospects.

The uncontrolled debt limit is the fiscal cliff folks and it is coming.


131 posted on 12/28/2012 11:39:47 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: kabar

132 posted on 12/29/2012 1:37:09 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Fiction is stranger than fiction...)
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To: sanjuanbob
Now when he asks for the debt ceiling to be increased, it should be a resounding NO.

No kidding, huh? And we both know that the chances of that are 1 in 100.

133 posted on 12/29/2012 1:46:57 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: tsowellfan
"The republicans do not deserve to keep the House in 2014. If I feel this way as much as I dislike Nancy Pelosi then millions of others do too."

Dude. Seriously. It's her bill Boehner is proposing...

"At this point I see the democrats with a super majority come November 2014. Hey, I give them this - they worked hard for it."

Puh-leez. Don't be a Freetard like the handwringing bedwetters that lost their collective sh!t after 2008, then hid under the covers before the 2010 GOP Tsunami...said it couldn't happen. Short memories make me laugh.

"Obama's no longer the problem. It's the people who allow Obama to keep acting with these tactics that's the problem."

What, his base? The barely 400K votes in 4 states that put him over the top? You're going to poop yourself over that? Grow a pair...

134 posted on 12/29/2012 1:51:49 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Fiction is stranger than fiction...)
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To: StAnDeliver

Barrack Hussein Lincoln?


135 posted on 12/29/2012 2:28:01 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty

Remember 400k is for a couple.. So it’s 200k per individual. Previous it was 200k individual/250k couple. Obama change is only on marriage penalty


136 posted on 12/29/2012 3:21:03 AM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: Sarah Barracuda

he can’t put two words together without saying UMMMMM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Residual effects of cocaine addiction.


137 posted on 12/29/2012 3:25:11 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: henbane

That be the man! President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho


138 posted on 12/29/2012 5:30:01 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: tsowellfan
According to the news, the democrats won big in November yet EVERY news event since has somehow been the blame of the republicans from Hurricane Sandy to the School Mass Murders and the recent northeast snowstorms.

Republicans = Goldstein (1984)

139 posted on 12/29/2012 5:32:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Toespi
I don’t have a PROBLEM. The republicans are a hell of a lot more conservative than the liberals that are running this country. You want another party? Well I wouldn’t mind it either but it will take decades before a viable, credible conservative party could win, it will be an uphill battle into the wind. We will be fighting media, new immigrants, the takers, and social issues. There isn’t any time left so we better get behind what we have.

As I said on these pages, so to speak, back before the election when Republican/conservative lack of turnout gave us another four years of Obama, in spite of his reduced turnout:
Over the past thirty years [leftists] have taken control of one of the two largest political parties in a country where winner takes all in elections and are busily working to fracture the only opposition they have by encouraging conservatives to leave the Republican Party in the hands of RINOS rather than working to take over the party apparatus as they, the Leftists, have taken over the Democrat Party.

For those who say, "Well, I'm a proud member of the Constitution Party or the Declaration Party or the Conservative Party or the Southern Principled Conservative Party of Holy Ghost Fire on the Mountain Pre-Rapture Remnant of the Real Thing Party and someday we'll be big enough to replace the Republican Party, just like the Temperance Party or the Bull Moose Party did":

Doofuses: we don't live in a parliamentary system where representation is divided proportionally between the losers!

It's winner take all, baby, and the sooner you realize that and stop wasting time fighting like cats and Baptists to multiply the number of me-so-conservative parties the sooner you'll have turned back the liberal encroachment on the existing main opposition party to their main vehicle for political power, the Democrat Party, instead of complimenting yourself on just how wonderfully more conservative your loser party is going to be than the one you deliberately abandoned to leftist takeover.
"Hey, I don't like these liberal bumper stickers on this fully functioning vehicle or the places its driver is taking us, right? So, I've got, like, this great plan to deal with that, 'kay? Instead of tossing the driver out on his butt and getting some more appropriate body detailing and then driving it wherever we want to go, we're going to get out at the next corner, wag our fingers really hard at the driver as he speeds off, and then from scratch build our own new most perfectly conservative vehicle and, someday, maybe, enter that into the race! And won't that glorious day be, oh, so grand?"
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Dream on.

140 posted on 12/29/2012 7:33:29 AM PST by aruanan
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To: boatbums

My tag line :-)


141 posted on 12/29/2012 8:42:57 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Flick Lives
Republicans = Goldstein (1984)

Exactly correct.

142 posted on 12/29/2012 9:12:54 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: aruanan

ok, so just let me know what we do, NOW, because its damn near too late.


143 posted on 12/29/2012 12:20:55 PM PST by Toespi
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To: butterdezillion

So, how goes the response from the Congress critters?


144 posted on 12/29/2012 12:53:46 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: tsowellfan

“Boehner should have been replaced long ago. Obama’s no longer the problem. It’s the people who allow Obama to keep acting with these tactics that’s the problem.

tsowellfan”

BINGO - what a great post.


145 posted on 12/29/2012 2:31:23 PM PST by MaryLou1
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To: Sarah Barracuda; tsowellfan

So, we work our tails off in 2010 to get the house in GOP hands, then Bonehead and company waste two whole years letting Zippy and crew wreck havoc on this great nation. DEfund that wretched EPA and other departments that are doing end run around your sorry carcass to pass thousands of rules. WHERE is the President’s budget? None in THREE years. This is NOT in the constitution. We need a states rights revolution.

Bonehead, McCainiac, Romney (I never wanted to be prez), no chin McConnell, Cantor and then add in Kstreet people like Trent Lottless.... OMG we need to rid ourselves of the dem-light people.

GOP - please grab a microphone - call a presser and just read the list that is endless: EPA doing end run, Geithner and fed printing $$$ from their backsides, Da Union thugs now imbedded in White House making Da Rules, SSDI is filled with lazy peeps that have run out of unemployment bennies, food stamp numbers at all time high, etc. Need I go on? Add your own to this list. YOU OWN this, GOPe and Dems. You just let this !@#$&!@! prez run all over you and this great nation. We shall NOT give in NOR will we give up. Shame on the GOPe. Sickening, isn’t it folks, what is going on with our great country? If you don’t like it here LEAVE. But Leave the USA ALONE!


146 posted on 12/29/2012 3:16:51 PM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: Toespi

“But for right now, this country is dangling by a thread, time is running out and the only weapon we have between us and tyranny are the house republicans.”

I hate it when reality trumps my Right Wing Utopian vision....

I’ll be honest. I don’t know what to do or say at this point, and I’m not ashamed to say so.


147 posted on 12/29/2012 4:33:20 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: StAnDeliver
Don't be a Freetard like the handwringing bedwetters

Dude, don't think for one second that I am handwringing and bedwetting over the fate of THIS GOP in control of Congress. Just the opposite. At this point I'm not concerned the least if they lose the House in 2014. Perhaps you need to re-read my post or maybe it is YOU who is handwringing and bedwetting that this GOP is losing support from its own base.

Cheer up. Better for the democrats to own 100% of this mess.

148 posted on 12/29/2012 4:40:43 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Homer1

“Given the choice between a conservative and a Communist, too many RINOs will pick the communist. That is the problem.”

Agreed. That’s how we got stuck with Mitt Trotsky and that’s why we’re about to get stuck with the Weeper of the House again.


149 posted on 12/29/2012 4:42:22 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: StAnDeliver
What, his base? The barely 400K votes in 4 states that put him over the top? You're going to poop yourself over that? Grow a pair..

Well, you'd have thought that the dems had won a super majority in a LANDSLIDE when you look at the performance of Speaker John Boehner.

It's not me that needs to "grow a pair".

150 posted on 12/29/2012 4:46:23 PM PST by tsowellfan
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