[i_robot73]

Seems to me, most here are ready to tow the party line...if they ‘have’ to again *spit*. There is no indication of any change coming, no infighting to let the base (and those of us outside) know that something better is trying to come along.

No, most will still belittle us as ‘fringe’ and ‘kooks’, while the Left consolidates their power. They want to work within the party (again, again, again) cause 3rd party could take YEARS to develop (the same BS the Left uses against drilling at home).

When (IF) the GOP ever do the right thing again, I’ll gladly vote for ‘em, but I’m laying down my convictions because the D.C. crowd says it’s the best they got...Because that’s worked so well during these $$ talks, right?

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

No, most will still belittle us as ‘fringe’ and ‘kooks’, while the Left consolidates their power.

Woe to anyone who disagrees with Limbaugh on this forum. I didn't like Sandra Fluke's agenda, but after I posted that Limbaugh's in-the-air claim that she was a "sl**" was just helping Obama, some FR Politburo posters informed me that I was a left wing agent.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”When (IF) the GOP ever do the right thing again, I’ll gladly vote for ‘em, but I’m laying down my convictions because the D.C. crowd says it’s the best they got...Because that’s worked so well during these $$ talks, right?”

Let me tell you whats worked. Obama’s plan to destroy the Republican party has worked. You ever ask yourself how O wins these over and over? Does he *win* always making a dramatic symbolic stand against public opinion that ends in humiliating defeat like the R side keeps doing ?
Well exactly 2 years ago O got the Pelosi lame duck House to extend all the tax cuts for exactly two years to give him an election issue against the coming nominee, which worked too, and to leave a time bomb he could use now to destroy Republicans when they expire.

Here's the reason that holding out on extending part of the tax cuts will lose,(they will give in) and help Obama: Republicans call extending some of the tax cuts ‘tax increases’. That is intellectually dishonest and is sure to lose. O knows this. Anyone should know this. That is why O fuels the fire by calling them both.

[sickoflibs]

Obama 2015
Agenda

Repeal DOMA (gays get federal marriage benefits)

Immigration reform (give poor illegal’s the vote(for Dem), and free Obama-care, and tax credits)

Gun Safety laws (your gun can hold the max five bullets and it costs $500 in taxes to register)

Obama care fixes (raise the uninsured fine and make it more progressive)

Retirement savings reform( remove tax deferment for 401Ks except if it invests in government bonds)

Reproductive freedom (Obama-care expanded to all (free) abortions for any reason)

Climate Change (Cap and Trade taxes)