Regulating the Militia - The Second Amendment is about protecting ourselves from the state.

NRO ^ | Kevin D. Williamson

[cuban leaf]

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good”

— George Washington

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”

— Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[AtlasStalled]

One should be very suspicious when an armed government demands that its citizens disarm.

I get a chuckle when libtards say no hunter needs a so-called assault weapon. Last I checked, the Second Amendment wasn’t about hunters’ rights!

In America citizens are entitled to protect themselves.

As any rancher, farmer or homesteader in the southwest along the border can attest the U.S. government is failing in the job to protect its citizens, and as long as drug cartels are crossing a semi-automatic rifle is a citizen’s best protection against a dangerous menace.

The fact is that cops can do little to protect citizens in the first instance but only show up after the fact — whether along the border or in any city — when it’s often too late.

[FlingWingFlyer]

“Sensible” is libspeak for “the camel’s nose”.

[crosshairs]

Of course, the mind manipulators want the gullible to think it’s all about hunting.

[GOPJ]

The answer to this question is straightforward: The purpose of having citizens armed with paramilitary weapons is to allow them to engage in paramilitary actions. The Second Amendment is not about Bambi and burglars — whatever a well-regulated militia is, it is not a hunting party or a sport-clays club. It is remarkable to me that any educated person — let alone a Harvard Law graduate — believes that the second item on the Bill of Rights is a constitutional guarantee of enjoying a recreational activity.

Elite liberals walk around telling each other how smart they are --- until some of them start believing it...

[GOPJ]

The answer to this question is straightforward:

The purpose of having citizens armed with paramilitary weapons is to allow them to engage in paramilitary actions. The Second Amendment is not about Bambi and burglars — whatever a well-regulated militia is, it is not a hunting party or a sport-clays club. It is remarkable to me that any educated person — let alone a Harvard Law graduate — believes that the second item on the Bill of Rights is a constitutional guarantee of enjoying a recreational activity.

Elite liberals walk around telling each other how smart they are --- until some of them start believing ...

[GOPJ]

The Department of Homeland Security has existed for only a few years but it already has been partly transformed into an organized-crime syndicate. According to a federal report, in 2011 alone more than 300 DHS employees and contractors were charged with crimes ranging from smuggling drugs and child pornography to selling sensitive intelligence to drug cartels. That’s not a few bad apples — that’s an arrest every weekday and many weekends. Given the usual low ratio of arrests to crimes committed, it is probable that DHS employees are responsible for not hundreds but thousands of crimes.

FYI

[GOPJ]

The Department of Homeland Security has existed for only a few years but it already has been partly transformed into an organized-crime syndicate. According to a federal report, in 2011 alone more than 300 DHS employees and contractors were charged with crimes ranging from smuggling drugs and child pornography to selling sensitive intelligence to drug cartels. That’s not a few bad apples — that’s an arrest every weekday and many weekends. Given the usual low ratio of arrests to crimes committed, it is probable that DHS employees are responsible for not hundreds but thousands of crimes.

FYI

[txnativegop]

Do you think that we can ever do away with DHS?

[veracious]

Yup.

I may join the NRA now, but sometimes they sound too much like mere hunters...

It is about defending USA and each one of us, from enemies foreign, domestic and in our neighbors.

[Morris70]

'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

Translation Incorrect:

'A well regulated Army , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

Translation Incorrect:

'A well regulated National Guard , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

Translation Incorrect:

'A well regulated Police Force , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

Translation Correct:

'A well regulated People , being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

[Theoria]

His assertion of "We may consent to be governed, but we will not be ruled." Is laughable, 'we' continue to give and allow more power to the state. Searches, seizures, government abuse. etc. Yet, ourselves do nothing and continue to vote for the R's and D's.

If Mr. Williamson thinks that we must defend our self against the state. What is an example? It what situation would it be 'legal'? Does he infer we need revolution? I curious what he is actually suggesting instead of merely the typical armed citizen defending himself with a gun against a criminal. He could bring up Indiana passing laws for the homeowner to defend themselves[against illegal LEO], even so that is limited in scope, and depended on a 'law'.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I think Penn Jilette explains it very nicely.

Nothing else need be said.

The 2nd Amendment from Penn & Teller

[MrB]

Don’t forget the translation of “well regulated” -

it means “practiced”.

[Las Vegas Ron]

it means “practiced”.

Didn't it also mean "equipped" too?

[SandRat]

Not so long as the RATS control the White House and the Senate.

[MrB]

I was just thinking along those lines.
In order to be well-practiced, the individual must be free to practice at his convenience, and as much as he feels comfortable with.

[palmer]

The “state” is not as much a threat as the criminals that it coddles and enables. The campaign against the 2A is mostly to disarm victims so they don’t inconvenience the criminals as much. Without the 2A we would not have “home invasions” making the news as they do now, because they would be common. Without the 2A many women or elderly would be revictimized regularly. There would be the same media blackout of violent crime for the suburbs that we now get for the big cities. Most importantly there would be immediate prosecution of any possession of firearms or any components to send a lesson to the law abiding that would far exceed sentences given to violent criminals.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Well said.

This is also a perfect illustration of the dangers in changing semantics.

Marriage comes to mind....