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To: CyberAnt
These people really do think we’re so gullible and stupid we can’t figure stuff out.

Of course we can’t figure stuff out.

We don’t have research staff or research grants.

Duh?

13 posted on 12/27/2012 5:07:57 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

All these epidemiologically based studies (like Kellerman’s) suffer from the same basic defect: they not only conclude that correlation equals causation, but they assume a direction for the causation that has no real support. In fact, causation in the other direction is much more likely.

Specifically, they assume that possessing a gun somehow makes one more likely to get shot. It is much more logical to think that the fear of getting shot makes one more likely to possess a gun. It should therefore not be surprising that there exists the kind of correlation that Kellerman reports.

Using Kellerman’s logic, one could say that since many people die in hospitals, sick people should avoid hospitals at all costs.

Also, if I remember correctly, in Kellerman’s original study a large proportion of the subjects were either drug users or drug dealers. Participants in the illegal drug trade would likely have a greater-than-normal fear of being shot.

Zeko


14 posted on 12/27/2012 5:55:24 PM PST by Zeko
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