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What Does It Mean To “Prepare For The Economic Collapse”?
SHTF Plan ^ | 12-24-2012 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 12/26/2012 8:14:39 AM PST by blam

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To: blam

I have obtained the necessary food, water, medical supplies, ammo and tools and am now purchasing gold and silver coins. There is a different strategy for return on investment than preparing for a financial and economic collapse when paper currency will be useless. For instance, a 1 oz gold coin has a smaller premium than a fractional, but in a collapse it would be like carry around a $1000 bill. It appears that silver bullion coins are more liquid in such a scenario.


21 posted on 12/26/2012 9:53:39 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Jim Noble
but the descriptions of the horrors that follow are overstated.

Really? Care to give some historical examples where there was monetary collaspe without civil unrest? Greece isn't one, btw.

Who would have thought that 3 days after Sandy that people would be digging in dumpsters for food, or taking a crap in the hallways of their apartments?

/johnny

22 posted on 12/26/2012 9:56:03 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

Look what is happening right before your eyes and take heed. There’s a Great Storm coming you can feel it.
Listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

This is a quote from the article:”If you don’t think this is realistic, then you aren’t paying attention to the world around you.”

One of the things that will hurt is the fact that many will not except that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it?It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


23 posted on 12/26/2012 9:56:35 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: crazydad
My question is who is going to do the CONFISCATING?

Underlings following orders, of course. The ones who must be made to pay are those GIVING the orders. Make a list, spread it to all like-minded individuals and have a plan for those priority targets.

24 posted on 12/26/2012 9:57:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


25 posted on 12/26/2012 9:58:32 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Here in deep SE Texas there are places LE are reluctant to go even on a good day.

They’re not about to go in there and try to take something from someone on a bad day.


26 posted on 12/26/2012 10:10:46 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: blam

The good news is that when the dust finally settles, the vast majority of these unprepared bed wetters and re-distribution control freaks will kill each other off in search of the very things Preppers have worked at to remain self reliant and the vast majority of Preppers will survive and even thrive long after the mob has died out.


27 posted on 12/26/2012 10:20:39 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: MachIV

“Everyone is written off as a nutjob until it actually happens.”

True, but I think the thing that everyone is missing is the rage these people have toward those they disagree with. Whether a person preps or not does not effect them but they have a viceral hatred for those that do. Such hatred makes them capable of anything.


28 posted on 12/26/2012 10:48:26 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Kartographer

bflr


29 posted on 12/26/2012 10:56:29 AM PST by Justa
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To: Baynative

Those who are armed but not prepping will find you.


30 posted on 12/26/2012 10:57:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Such hatred makes them capable of anything.

Such hatred makes them capable of ATTEMPTING anything, but it doesn't make them capable of doing what they mouth off about.

They are all hat, no cattle, all sound and fury, signifying nothing. (to quote the original Wm. Shakespear)

/johnny

31 posted on 12/26/2012 10:58:08 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MachIV
I wish I could get some of my closer family members to understand this. Everyone is written off as a nutjob until it actually happens.

Reminds me of Noah as he was building his arc. He, too, was written off as a nutjob, I would guess.

32 posted on 12/26/2012 10:59:19 AM PST by olezip
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Marcella
Those who are armed but not prepping will find you.

I think Marco calls this "Suicide by prepper".

/johnny

33 posted on 12/26/2012 10:59:56 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We are hearing that constantly and upgrading our defense capabilities this week. The hard part of the planning is that the more fortifications we acquire the herder it is to travel if the time comes.


34 posted on 12/26/2012 11:10:03 AM PST by Baynative
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To: tumblindice
I did LOL! at that one.

/johnny

35 posted on 12/26/2012 11:19:26 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MrB

From what I’m seeing, the takers don’t even know how, or have the means to, take. Government has to do it for them.


36 posted on 12/26/2012 11:22:57 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Baynative

“the more fortifications we acquire the herder it is to travel if the time comes.”

Just remember you can only shoot one gun at a time so you don’t need an armory. Just enough to protect you and yours; a good handgun, an MBR(main battle rifle) and a good tactical shotgun. Plent of ammo to match.


37 posted on 12/26/2012 11:37:14 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: gundog

I’m almost wary of continuing to use this as I get older, but, I’ve never had a liberal taker (pun intended) on this challenge -

“You want to redistribute my wealth? Why don’t you come over here and take it out of my wallet then.”


38 posted on 12/26/2012 11:56:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I walk everywhere, and particularly when I go the stores or the grocery Obama’s beggars seem lined up.

I tell them “I don’t have a dime, man...just The Card.” Seeing that I’m on foot, they assume that to mean the EBT, I’m sure...but I use my bank card for everything, never carry cash.


39 posted on 12/26/2012 12:19:16 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: JRandomFreeper; Georgia Girl 2; Kartographer
“Those who are armed but not prepping will find you.”
“I think Marco calls this “Suicide by prepper.”

Yes, a prepper will be ready for those who “think” they can take the prepper’s stuff. If a bad guy(s) come around they are totally stupid if they don't think they are committing suicide by prepper.

About helping people:
One trouble maker can ruin your day and days. The trouble maker doesn't have a gun - the trouble maker is just a trouble maker. Here is an example:

I was on call (volunteer) as a first responder in my gated subdivision (not where I live now). I got a call from our front gate that “x” had called 911. So, I go to that house wondering why that house where a trouble maker woman lived, had called 911.

I go in the house and there is a very thin man I had never seen who looked like an AIDS victim. I did not touch him. I asked what his problem was. He said he was a diabetic and the woman wouldn't feed him if he didn't perform certain sexual acts. During this time, I was putting on my medical gloves.

(About medical gloves - don't use plain plastic gloves like you might use to garden or cook. Buy a box of MEDICAL gloves so bacteria/virus can't get through the gloves.)

I was taking his vital signs during this time. He said he hadn't eaten in many hours because she wouldn't let him.

About this time, the ambulance shows up and in comes a woman EMT. She took one look at the guy and said, “I don't have any gloves with me.” I gave her a pair. We gave him glucose in a tube and stayed until he was able to get around.

So, that is one lesson - the person you help may have a dangerous illness and you won't know it. You must take precaution before you help someone.

So, days go by and I have other calls, then one day I get a call that a woman had been bitten by a dog. I go there and the dog has bitten her face, including her left eye. If a person has a wound in the eye, you must bandage both eyes so they cannot open, as the damaged eye will follow the movement of the other eye if it isn't bandaged and maybe cause more damage.

I explained to the lady why I had to put a bandage directly on both closed eyes so they could not open. As I was doing this, I asked her what happened.

The dog belonged to the woman who makes trouble. She let this big dog run free and he had jumped on this woman and done this to her. I took all her vital signs (packaged her)so the ambulance could have that paperwork, immediately know her vital signs and what was wrong with her, and leave.

The woman who causes trouble later went to this woman's house and threatened to call social service and tell them to take away her welfare benefit because there was a man living with her. If the hurt woman didn't try to get money from her, she wouldn't call social service.

As I said, one trouble maker can make your life miserable if that person is around you in an emergency situation. You have to know about a person before you extend your service. You wouldn't think this particular trouble maker was one just by talking with her. You would find it out later when she did something terrible to you.

This trouble maker sued everyone she could think of for anything - she stayed in court more than she did anywhere else. Be aware some people look/talk just fine but that is on the surface. Look under the surface.

40 posted on 12/26/2012 12:25:12 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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